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LAME 3.90.3

... what happened to 3.90.3. I assumed it had not yet been released by Dibrom, but people seem to be discussing it like it exists somewhere. Does it? The "recommended compiles" list does not have it linked to.

Also, if it does exist am I right assuming the only change is the addition of -Z to the alt-presets?

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... what happened to 3.90.3. I assumed it had not yet been released by Dibrom, but people seem to be discussing it like it exists somewhere. Does it? The "recommended compiles" list does not have it linked to.

Also, if it does exist am I right assuming the only change is the addition of -Z to the alt-presets?

You'll find it at RareWares, link on the Portal, as a .dll and .exe. You're partly correct. The only difference with 3.90.2 is the addition of '-Z' to --alt-preset standard and only APS.

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I thought -Z helped extreme as well as standard?
"Droplets of Yes and No, in an ocean of Maybe"

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Reply #3
Is 3.90.3 recommended or not?  If so why is the sticky not updated?

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Jebus, you are really jebus!
Jebus ty jestes pojebany

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Is 3.90.3 recommended or not?  If so why is the sticky not updated?

Good question.  I was expecting one of the other mods to get to this, but I guess I should have said something.  If nobody else does it, I'll update it myself later, though I suppose I should probably check out the compile "just to be sure".  This means I won't get around to it for awhile, since I'm already working on a bunch of other stuff right now.

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Thank you, Dibrom.

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Jebus, you are really jebus!
Jebus ty jestes pojebany

ADAM...

Masz moze bogatszy zasob slownictwa?
Jezeli tak, to spruboj go zastosowac!

CU
Bobby Black

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Reply #8
Please observe Forum rule #10 - All posts must be in English.

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Please observe Forum rule #10 - All posts must be in English.

Hi Dibrom!

This was only a comment to <adamjk>
He should don't use the bad words in foreign language.

CU
Bobby Black

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Jebus ty jestes pojebany

Really nice post... (pojebany = f**ed) when we take into the account it's the post Nr. 3 from you 

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Reply #11
OFF-TOPIC: How come so many people here understand Polish? (Me included)
Anyway, bitching, especially in foreign language is forbidden here.
Look rules 2 and 10 and learn them by heart before posting anything else.

ON-TOPIC: Is 3.90.3 recommended or not? I haven't noticed any clear answer...
ruxvilti'a

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Reply #12
AstralStorm: It should be recommended, the issue is it hasn't been tested thoroughly (so as to ensure that 3.90.3 really is the same as 3.90.2, just with -Z). Does it really matter, though? Using 3.90.2 --aps -Z does the same thing and you'll get that warm fuzzy feeling knowing there's not something wrong with your compile...

Although, does anyone feel like we're a little too hesitant to accept new versions because of possible minute quality differences? This is understandable, of course, but really, is anything ever going to be more thoroughly tested than 3.90.2?

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There's enough confusion about LAME versions and alt-presets yet. I think it is more practical to recommend -Z.
It's OK to have an unofficial compile with -Z included (e.g. a CDex-dll). But regarding non-windows users, it is smarter to recommend -Z for APS/APE.

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Reply #14
...couldn´t find in the Lame-Doc... 
What does the "Z"-Setting do?

Thanks
Hiwi
Bombing for Peace is like
Fucking for Virginity
-No WAR-

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Reply #15
Hate quoting myself, but here you go
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-Z is a toggle switch for noise shaping modes 1 and 2. Mode 2 allows for more noise, mode 1 is less aggressive (= sometimes higher quality). Naturally, NS1 can lead to a slightly higher bitrate with VBR. The switch --alt-preset insane already uses NS1 from the beginning, because it's CBR and the filesize stays the same. This also means that using -Z with --api toggles it to NS2! --alt-preset standard/extreme use an adaptive mode that switches between NS1 and NS2, but some problem samples have recently proven that plain NS1 performs better. -Z forces --aps/--ape to NS1.

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...couldn´t find in the Lame-Doc...  
What does the "Z"-Setting do?

Anyone wanting to find out what we're talking about with the -Z, and -Y switches etc., should print a copy of the LAME Long Help for their own usage by running this command from a command prompt or batch file:

LAME --longhelp > "LAME Long Help.txt"

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I thought -Z helped extreme as well as standard?

Yes it does.

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Reply #18
For anyone interested, I've recompiled and uploaded all the 3.90.3 variants with '-Z' added to APE as well as to APS.

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Reply #19
tnx john33. downloading...

is it possible for you to update the 3.90.3 compile so that it accepts a --preset command alternatively to the --alt-preset command (like newer versions of lame do, they accept both...). just to get conformity with newer LAMEs??? (and it's faster to type).



@elmar3rd: now with lame 3.90.3 out in the public, I think it's more practical to recommend one safe preset: that's --alt-preset standard.

strange switches like -Z, -Y, -X etc. could confuse some.

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tnx john33. downloading...

is it possible for you to update the 3.90.3 compile so that it accepts a --preset command alternatively to the --alt-preset command (like newer versions of lame do, they accept both...). just to get conformity with newer LAMEs??? (and it's faster to type).

A reasonable suggestion, I'll look into it.

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Reply #21
wow great.


that shouldn't harm anyone and would make the use of the presets more "clear". (we don't have to explain the difference between the presets of the old lames and the new ones - or to explain that there aren't any).

and there is another good reason. the formerly alternative presets (therefore --alt-presets) aren't alternative anymore. they ARE definitely the presets to touch.

EDIT: and if it's possible, please don't forget that there are abr and cbr presets too.

tnx, amano

 

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spruboj

Bobby Black...

uje sie nie kreskuje 

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Reply #23
THANKS!!!

CU
Bobby Black

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Reply #24
Post in english only! If you want to say something in polish, send a private message...