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Recording vs Listening Qualities

Reply #25 –
Quote from: Canar on
Quote from: analog scott on
Since we as audiophiles don't get to make the recordings we really don't get to do any of the things you are talking about in getting the sound "we" want. So your axiom "once we have have the sound we want" does not exist with many recordings and simply has to be something that takes place in the playback chain.
This is where you're completely missing the point. Add all the euphonic colouration you want, if that's what you want to hear. From that point on, you want to accurately reproduce that euphony that you like so much. The "once we have the sound we want" axiom is with regards to recording, but you're deliberately confusing it with playback in order to trot out your euphonic agenda. It assumes that there is some artist who's out there, making a recording, finally gets a take that they like (with whatever euphony they desire integrated into the performance), and decides that "Hey, this take is the one that's going on the CD." From that point, you don't want to lose any aspect of what has been recorded.

This has nothing to do with playback!


On the one hand you say "add all the euphonic coloration you want." OTOH you say "This has nothing to do with playback." How does an audiophile add all the euphonic coloration they want without doing it in the playback chain? You say add the euphonic coloration I want and then I want to reproduce *that* accurately? What does that mean? Let's say I add a euphonic coloration with my tube preamp. How do I "reproduce that accurately?" I just keep adding the same euphonic coloration by just continuing to use the preamp. I don't reproduce it all. I just let the preamp produce it fresh each time.

Recording vs Listening Qualities

Reply #26 –
Quote from: greynol on
The thing is that you will not find Ethan saying people shouldn't use what they want to get the sound they want, whether it be in the studio or on their couch at home.  He simply cautions people to put more effort into altering the things that have the greatest influence over the sound.

The only argument to be had here is whether analog scott is even paying attention to what's going on as opposed to trying to turn the discussion into something that it never was for whatever motivation.  He tried this bait and switch with the discussion over whether 16/44 is an adequate delivery format in order to justify his preference for vinyl.  He likes the way his select vinyl titles are mastered and sound on his system over the same titles on CD; we get it.  So what?  I can capture the output of his turntable or turntable/preamp, burn it to CD and play it back for him.  Do you think he'll think it doesn't sound as good if he doesn't know it's from CD?  I don't.



What you can't do is duplicate the sound I get from my equipment with my LPs using your equipment and CDs of the same titles. If that could be done then I would opt for that less expensive alternative.

I don't know where you get the idea that I have done some sort of bait and switch with the discussion over whether 16/44 is an adequate delivery format to justify my preference for vinyl. We haven't had any such discussion on this thread about any medium at all. I don't feel any need to justify my preferences. Why would anybody feel such a need? Preferences simply do not need justification.

My preferences are not based on the medium. There are many instances where I prefer a CD of a particular title over any LP version. It just doesn't happen as often as the opposite. Has nothing to do with the medium. Just what I am hearing.

If you know an inexpensive way via digital media to get the sound I get from my analog equipment without using my analog equipment please fill me in.
 

Recording vs Listening Qualities

Reply #27 –
I am closing this thread. Anyone is completely welcome to PM me to re-open it, provided that they sincerely believe that analog scott is making a sincere attempt to comprehend the words others are writing to him.

The general consensus among the people that I've spoken to is that he is not, and I don't want to waste more of my time and the time of others indulging him in this asinine descent into subjectivism that is euphony.