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I've broken my DVD burner using EAC

I've been archiving my CD collection using EAC and my PC has been on the go for most of the last month.

Some of the CDs have been scratched to an extent that EAC needed to scan and run through the night. (It was cooling down the CD/DVD drive in my PC every 60 minutes)

It has now broken the CD/DVD drive probably due to over use but I still have 300 CDs to archive.

I need to get another one.

I've had a look at the Sony AW-G170A and the Samsung SH-S182L.

They both seem to have 48x CD read and 18x DVD read and the Samsung has a facility to etch a label onto the disc as well. (If that's is any use or just a gimmick I'm not sure!). On the other hand the Sony has some sort of cooling system built in.

Can anyone reccommend a good DVD writer (Internal).

Should I just get a CD player instead just to archive my collection?

I've broken my DVD burner using EAC

Reply #1 –
Quote from: ngc1967 on
I've had a look at the Sony AW-G170A and the Samsung SH-S182L.
I have used both Sony and Samsung and am partial to Samsung. They are usually cheaper and of equal or better quality imho. I currently have two older models in my computer. I use one to burn and one to play.
Here is info I found on the Samsung... http://www.samsungodd.com/eng/Suppo...H-S182M_Eng.pdf

I've broken my DVD burner using EAC

Reply #2 –
What are the symptoms of the broken drive?

-brendan

I've broken my DVD burner using EAC

Reply #3 –
If you are going to keep on killing CD ROM players ripping those extremely scratched CD's you should buy some inexpensive old CD ROM players from used computer stores. EAC can figure out the best way to work with them anyways.

I've broken my DVD burner using EAC

Reply #4 –
Quote from: ngc1967 on
(It was cooling down the CD/DVD drive in my PC every 60 minutes)

It has now broken the CD/DVD drive probably due to over use but I still have 300 CDs to archive.

In my opinion 60 minutes is too long, especially if you're using EAC with a drive you don't want to damage. However I'll never let EAC rip a track overnight.

Welcome to the EAC club of broken drives, it killed a charished Toshiba of mine many years ago - but I'm not complaining.

You may want to start doing Burst Mode Test & Copy (with matching CRC's of course) to relieve the stress upon your drives, and/or get the AccurateRip add-on setup to use Burst Mode, and forget all about trying to get matching CRC's by going with the AccurateRip report.

I've broken my DVD burner using EAC

Reply #5 –
After ripping my collection (no overnight, just a few discs), my LiteOn will only open its disc slot to about half to what it used to... but it still works

I've broken my DVD burner using EAC

Reply #6 –
Well i still use a 3 year old pioneer dvr-105 which is still going perfect after ripping hundreds of cd's as well as been used as a main drive and burner for my computer. Pioneer dvr's also handle over-read perfectly in EAC which is a nice touch.

Having tried lite-on which failed within a few months and never burned that good when it worked i'll stick with pioneer for the for-seeable future

I've broken my DVD burner using EAC

Reply #7 –
My friend also thought that he broke his drive ripping and copying scratched CDs. When I came to see if it is really dead, I checked DMA settings first (that's what I always do first, when someone has trouble with CD/DVD drives). And the fact was, that Windows XP reverted to "PIO mode only". It wasn't the first time that happened to someone. Windows XP will do so if the drive reports 6 read errors, which normally occur, when ripping scratched CDs. There is an option to disable this IMHO stupid behaviour of Windows XP. Here are the instructions. Maybe your drive didn't die, ngc1967, maybe the same thing happened to you. The usual symptoms of having the drive in PIO mode are: It reads most pressed CDs but has trouble with some CDRs and mostly doesn't even recognise CDRWs. But those symptoms don't occur on all controlers. With my expirience with this problem, on some controllers the only effect of having the drive in PIO mode is slow performance (mostly Intel contollers), the problems I described are usually with some VIA controllers. Maybe you should check your settings, before throwing your supposedly broken drive away.

Some further reading on the subject.
lame -V 0

I've broken my DVD burner using EAC

Reply #8 –
Quote from: ngc1967 on
I've had a look at the Sony AW-G170A and the Samsung SH-S182L.

I've had good luck with the Samsung 16x - predecessor to the 18. I've used 4 now as well as 4 older Toshiba's (same manufacturer). No problem from any of them after many thousands of rips. Though I understand from review that Plextors handle some errors better.

I tried Sony drive a while back and had a couple fail on me in under a year. That may not be reflective of their current production, but I've stayed away ever since.
EAC secure | FLAC  --best -V -b 4096 | LAME 3.97 -V0 -q0 -b32

I've broken my DVD burner using EAC

Reply #9 –
BenQ/New Liteon's (OEM for Sony) does have cooling vents built into the drives.
"You can fight without ever winning, but never win without a fight."  Neil Peart  'Resist'

I've broken my DVD burner using EAC

Reply #10 –
Quote from: psycho on
My friend also thought that he broke his drive ripping and copying scratched CDs. When I came to see if it is really dead, I checked DMA settings first (that's what I always do first, when someone has trouble with CD/DVD drives). And the fact was, that Windows XP reverted to "PIO mode only". It wasn't the first time that happened to someone. Windows XP will do so if the drive reports 6 read errors, which normally occur, when ripping scratched CDs. There is an option to disable this IMHO stupid behaviour of Windows XP. Here are the instructions. Maybe your drive didn't die, ngc1967, maybe the same thing happened to you. The usual symptoms of having the drive in PIO mode are: It reads most pressed CDs but has trouble with some CDRs and mostly doesn't even recognise CDRWs. But those symptoms don't occur on all controlers. With my expirience with this problem, on some controllers the only effect of having the drive in PIO mode is slow performance (mostly Intel contollers), the problems I described are usually with some VIA controllers. Maybe you should check your settings, before throwing your supposedly broken drive away.

Some further reading on the subject.

So, even with XP service pack 2 this stupid behaviour remains and one will have to add those magic registry entries?

I've broken my DVD burner using EAC

Reply #11 –
Quote from: robert on
Quote from: psycho on

My friend also thought that he broke his drive ripping and copying scratched CDs. When I came to see if it is really dead, I checked DMA settings first (that's what I always do first, when someone has trouble with CD/DVD drives). And the fact was, that Windows XP reverted to "PIO mode only". It wasn't the first time that happened to someone. Windows XP will do so if the drive reports 6 read errors, which normally occur, when ripping scratched CDs. There is an option to disable this IMHO stupid behaviour of Windows XP. Here are the instructions. Maybe your drive didn't die, ngc1967, maybe the same thing happened to you. The usual symptoms of having the drive in PIO mode are: It reads most pressed CDs but has trouble with some CDRs and mostly doesn't even recognise CDRWs. But those symptoms don't occur on all controlers. With my expirience with this problem, on some controllers the only effect of having the drive in PIO mode is slow performance (mostly Intel contollers), the problems I described are usually with some VIA controllers. Maybe you should check your settings, before throwing your supposedly broken drive away.

Some further reading on the subject.

So, even with XP service pack 2 this stupid behaviour remains and one will have to add those magic registry entries?


from the microsoft link, this was corrected in service pack 2 of windows xp

here is quote from page:
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Windows XP
This problem was first corrected in Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2.

I've broken my DVD burner using EAC

Reply #12 –
Quote from: robert on
So, even with XP service pack 2 this stupid behaviour remains and one will have to add those magic registry entries?

Yes it still exists in WinXP SP2, it just happended to me last week!

As just last week scanning a CD EXTRA disc (which strangely all of them I've scanned have had corrupt regions in between the audio CD portion and data CD portion) in Nero CD-DVD Speed using ScanDisc caused my Plextor PX-760A to get stuck in PIO mode. Although it rarely happens, however the fix as outlined in the Hydrogenaudio.org guide Enabling DMA is quick and easy.

I've broken my DVD burner using EAC

Reply #13 –
SP2 lessens reverting to PIO, but it still happens. I am hoping that Vista does not have this problem.
 

I've broken my DVD burner using EAC

Reply #14 –
Thanks for all your responses.

My drive doesn't actually register any CDs that are put into it (pre-recorded audio CDs and software programmes). The green light on the front flashes as the tray is closed and then nothing else happens.

When I click onto the drive in 'My Computer' it says to insert a disc (which is already in there).

I've broken my DVD burner using EAC

Reply #15 –
From that description I'd say your DVD drive is kaput and went to Digital Heaven.