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SONY MZ-RH1 MP3

I am toying with treating myself to an MZ-RH1 for Christmas.  However, all my MP3 files are LAME VB.  Does anyone know if MP3 VB is playable on the MZ-NH1?  Thanks.   
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SONY MZ-RH1 MP3

Reply #1 –
Quote from: boojum on
I am toying with treating myself to an MZ-RH1 for Christmas.  However, all my MP3 files are LAME VB.  Does anyone know if MP3 VB is playable on the MZ-NH1?  Thanks.   

I am also considering this miniDisc player. On the manual it says yes, and it does not convert to ATRAC.

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Reply #2 –
Yes, I did the RTFM thing (read the fucking manual) and found the same info.  I will be buying one soon and if it does not play back LAME VBR I will post that.   
Nov schmoz kapop.

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Reply #3 –
I don't wanna question your decision, but why would one buy a MiniDisc player ? It's expensive, has small capacity, it's incompatible and i don't know what else. I'm just curious what advantages does it have, because here in Europe i can see a MiniDisc only on the web

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Reply #4 –
OK, I like the current MZ-RH1 because it will record in LPCM, which can produce the same sound quality as a CD.  It is uncompressed, raw data in the CD quality.  It can be uploaded as such into a WAV file and edited, etc, on the computer.  I like to do live recording.  With a disc capacity of well over an hour it is about right for a set of most popular bands.  If not, the discs can be changed and a new one started in less than a minute, still recording in CD quality.

As for MP3 files, well, have you any idea how many MP3's can be stored on a CD?  A lot.  The SONY compression is supposed to be better than it was, but it is not of much interest to me so long as I can xfer MP3's to the MD's and record in LPCM.

The MZ-RH1 has a lot of good stuff.  I suggest you check it out at SONY or Minidisco.com.  The plus of being able to carry lots of MD's to record on or listen to in a tiny space is appealing, too.

I hope this has helped.

YMMV

Nov schmoz kapop.

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Reply #5 –
I don't think that many MP3s fit on a single CD. I'm regularly burning MP3 CD's to be used in the car audio, my brothers discman and in the boombox in the kitchen. Usually the playing time of an MP3 CD is around 8 hours (VBR @ ~ 200 kbps) what is not so much for me.

For portable usage i would prefer a player with a 60GB HDD. So considering the price/capacity ratio MiniDisc is the clear looser for me.
But for recording it may be a good choice indeed.

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Reply #6 –
Quote from: molnart on
I don't think that many MP3s fit on a single CD. ~ Usually the playing time of an MP3 CD is around 8 hours (VBR @ ~ 200 kbps) what is not so much for me.


Ah . . . young 'uns.   

I remember when you used to get one song on a dics that was twice that size. You could flip it over and get another. 

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Reply #7 –
Quote from: Artie on
Quote from: molnart on

I don't think that many MP3s fit on a single CD. ~ Usually the playing time of an MP3 CD is around 8 hours (VBR @ ~ 200 kbps) what is not so much for me.


Ah . . . young 'uns.   

I remember when you used to get one song on a dics that was twice that size. You could flip it over and get another. 



Is that the kind with the big hole in the middle?   

For me, ~8 hours on a single MD is pretty good.  There are 5 MD's in a box, so there is a week's worth of music, as I calculate.   
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Reply #8 –
As far as I know a minidisc only can store about 150 MB.
150MB / 292 kbps ATRAC = 74 minutes.

If you want to record in uncompressed LPCM (44 kHz, 16 bit, stereo) you can only put 15 minutes on there.

edit: I just googled a bit ... Appearently a standard Hi-MD stores 300 MB and a high density Hi-MD can store 1 gig.
http://www.minidisc.org/hi-md_faq.html#_q87

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Reply #9 –
Quote from: boojum on
Is that the kind with the big hole in the middle?   


Yup. Still got 'em, and they still play great.  I do like mp3's also, though.
 

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Reply #10 –
Quote from: Artie on
Quote from: boojum on

Is that the kind with the big hole in the middle?   
Yup. Still got 'em, and they still play great.  I do like mp3's also, though.

I've got some of those things in the basement too, i remember listening to them when i was 5-6 years old. But that hole was actually smaller than on CDs 

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Reply #11 –
I just got the MZ-RH1 a week ago, and I am very happy with its built and sound quality. Lame VBR files work very well with the RH1, and so does the Helix encoded ones. Mp3 are not gapless on the unit, but the Atrac3+ files are. I encoded some gapless albums with Atrac3+ 352kbps and they sound very very good.

Compared to the iAudio M3 which I own, the RH1 sounds much clearer across all frequencies and has much more punch to the music. And this unit is hissless, at least I can't hear them on my Audio Technica ATH-CM7ti earphones. One word of warning though, because the HD Digital Amp of the RH1 "exposes" all the details (and flaws) of the music files, you will find yourself wondering why the old 128kbps files and below suddenly sounding like "crap" now 

Some guys might ask why anyone would want to go back to MD now that HDD and Flash players are everywhere. Well the main reason why I bought the RH1 was because of the numerous user reviews praising its sound quality. And it now plays mp3 perfectly with no high frequency roll-offs like in the older Sony Hi-MD units. Having owned a previous MD unit, the Sharp MT-831 (which had excellent sound quality too), I was also looking forward to listening to the little MD catridges which has been gathering dust on the shelves.

Until Sony (or other DAP manufacturers) decide to focus primarily on putting excellent sound circuitry into their HDD or Flash-based units I will be sticking with the RH1, and hopefully MDs will still be around for a long time.