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DTS 5.1 .wav files to DVD-Audio

Hi,

Terrific forum... thank you.

I've got a bunch of DTS Audio CD's that simply will not play from my pc... my only CD or DVD player.  I've tried every option I could comprehend since I started looking into this last week... in this forum and elsewhere.  VLC doesn't work, even with the  ffdshow decoder installed and configured.  Media Player Classic... that doesn't work either, though I did get close with it... I finally got music to come from the recording after installing the DTS source file (.ax file)... but it was downmixed to stereo! 

At this point I have to assume that my sound card (M-Audio Audiophile 24/96) is resamping the 44.1 stream to 48.0.  My receiver gets the DTS stream, I can hear way in the background, but there's this incredible diginoise over it that scares me.  M-Audio claims it supports bit-perfect output, but I have no other explanation.

I've got WaveLab 5.0.  I know I can mix a DVD-Audio disc from 6 monaural .wav tracks p/ track, but is it possible to take the current completely mixed 5.1 .wav files, resample them to 48 KHz, and convert them to DVD-Audio, or do I have to demux them back down to 6 mono tracks and then resample and encode?

Any help would be appreciated.  I feel like this is an enormous amount of effort to play some music that's already encoded to a format I should be able to play.  I'm on my last nerve with this project... I got a ton of shit from my wife this weekend for spending the better part of three straight days trying to sort it out.

Thanks for any and all help... and for such a terrific well of information.

DTS 5.1 .wav files to DVD-Audio

Reply #1 –
Quote from: Groovealufagus on
VLC doesn't work,

What version of VLC did you try. DTS support has been dropped at 0.7.3 and was back in 0.8.5.
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I've got WaveLab 5.0.  I know I can mix a DVD-Audio disc from 6 monaural .wav tracks p/ track, but is it possible to take the current completely mixed 5.1 .wav files, resample them to 48 KHz, and convert them to DVD-Audio, or do I have to demux them back down to 6 mono tracks and then resample and encode?

There is not much sense in making a DVD-A from DTS, as players that can play DVD-A can play DTS too (AFAIK). BTW no need to resample audio on DVD-A as 44.1 KHz is supported.

Maybe you mean a DVD-V(ideo) with DTS sound track?
The least I can tell you is the encoded 44.1 DTS files can not be resampled. You can only resample decoded wav-files.

Better options would be looking for a player that can play the files you have now. PowerDVD (Deluxe or with DTS option) and WinDVD (Platinum?) can play DTS-CD's (mount the image or cue files as Audio CD and play the mounted drive). Or find the foo_dts plugin for foobar2000 (rename wavs to .dts and play).
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.

DTS 5.1 .wav files to DVD-Audio

Reply #2 –
Hi, Thanks for the response.  You've saved me a lot of trouble that would have resulted in no gain.

I've tried PowerDVD 7 deluxe and WinDVD 7 Platinum.  I've tried KM Player, Media Player Classic with the DTSWAVSource.ax and dtsac3source.ax, and ffdshow in use.  I've had no luck at all.  VLC is the latest version (0.8.5) but it doesn't work either, even with ffdshow.  I have the 0.9 version of foobar and can't find the foo_dts plugin available anywhere.  The link to it was removed in all the threads in this forum. 

No matter the player, if it passes the dts stream to my receiver I get horrible diginoise over the sound of the music way in the back.  Yamaha says that there should be no problem decoding the stream with my receivers dts decoder. 

I managed to configure MPC two different ways that yielded playback of the files downmixed to stereo with the volume control working.  When I look at the 'filters' information from the menu's, everything sees the 6 channel dts audio files at the correct, bit, sample and stream rates, except the waveparser, which says 44.1, 2 channel.  I'm officially lost. 

Any additional suggestions would be a huge help.  I feel like I'm definitely configuring something wrong.  All of these plugins have me in a little over my head. 

Can anyone share the correct set-up for VLC 0.8.5 to get dts passthrough to work?

This has gone from confusing, to challenging, to frustrating and challenging to downright disappointing.  I'm deflated and almost ready to give up.

Thanks again,

Dan
 

DTS 5.1 .wav files to DVD-Audio

Reply #3 –
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The least I can tell you is the encoded 44.1 DTS files can not be resampled. You can only resample decoded wav-files.


So I couldn't use BeSplit to decode the dts .wav file to 6 single channel .wav files, then resample those files to 48 kHz and then encode to DVD-A?

DTS 5.1 .wav files to DVD-Audio

Reply #4 –
Quote from: Groovealufagus on
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The least I can tell you is the encoded 44.1 DTS files can not be resampled. You can only resample decoded wav-files.


So I couldn't use BeSplit to decode the dts .wav file to 6 single channel .wav files, then resample those files to 48 kHz and then encode to DVD-A?

You don't need to resample to 48 KHz to write to DVD-A.
As far as encoding DTS to CD, you -may- need a standalone decoder (like the one Creative makes) and
write to a stand-alone CD unit that will downsample 48 to 44.1 (my Sony does).
I'm not up on BeSplit, BeSweet, and all those other b's, so I don't know what their capabilites are. 

DTS 5.1 .wav files to DVD-Audio

Reply #5 –
Quote from: Groovealufagus on
Hi,

Terrific forum... thank you.

I've got a bunch of DTS Audio CD's that simply will not play from my pc... my only CD or DVD player.  I've tried every option I could comprehend since I started looking into this last week... in this forum and elsewhere.  VLC doesn't work, even with the  ffdshow decoder installed and configured.  Media Player Classic... that doesn't work either, though I did get close with it... I finally got music to come from the recording after installing the DTS source file (.ax file)... but it was downmixed to stereo! 

At this point I have to assume that my sound card (M-Audio Audiophile 24/96) is resamping the 44.1 stream to 48.0.  My receiver gets the DTS stream, I can hear way in the background, but there's this incredible diginoise over it that scares me.  M-Audio claims it supports bit-perfect output, but I have no other explanation.

I've got WaveLab 5.0.  I know I can mix a DVD-Audio disc from 6 monaural .wav tracks p/ track, but is it possible to take the current completely mixed 5.1 .wav files, resample them to 48 KHz, and convert them to DVD-Audio, or do I have to demux them back down to 6 mono tracks and then resample and encode?

Any help would be appreciated.  I feel like this is an enormous amount of effort to play some music that's already encoded to a format I should be able to play.  I'm on my last nerve with this project... I got a ton of shit from my wife this weekend for spending the better part of three straight days trying to sort it out.

Thanks for any and all help... and for such a terrific well of information.



My WinDVD Platinum 7 plays DTS-CD just fine. They also play fine in my home theater DVD player. Are any of these copies downloaded from internet? If so, then you might have a problem there and might want to try a different burning program like EAC(Exact Audio Copy) even though that kind of thing is illegal of course.

DTS 5.1 .wav files to DVD-Audio

Reply #6 –
Have you tried to play the CD somewhere else? Maybe the CD itself is corrupt, maybe do some quality scans on it