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Anyone here use the MAD mp3 decoder winamp plugin?

If not i recommed you take a look, it really makes a differance to your mp3s.
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Anyone here use the MAD mp3 decoder winamp plugin?

Reply #1 –
What is this "mad"?


;-)

Anyone here use the MAD mp3 decoder winamp plugin?

Reply #2 –
the difference is THAT small with normal not clipped mp3s! Only with clipped mp3s it performs much better!

I still use it btw!

Anyone here use the MAD mp3 decoder winamp plugin?

Reply #3 –
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Originally posted by Gabriel
What is this "mad"?

MPEG Audio Decoder (not a bad name )
It's been around for a couple of years now. It should be most usefull for 24 bit sound cards (but I use it too).
Hint: I set the clip detection somewhat less agressive so it kicks in much smoother.

Oh, in case you realy didn't know: http://www.mars.org/home/rob/proj/mpeg/mad-plugin/

edit: no id3v2 support (but what the heck)
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In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.

Anyone here use the MAD mp3 decoder winamp plugin?

Reply #4 –
Actually I was just kidding...

Anyone here use the MAD mp3 decoder winamp plugin?

Reply #5 –
Think MAD is better? Try the MAD Challenge:

http://ff123.net/madchallenge.html

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Anyone here use the MAD mp3 decoder winamp plugin?

Reply #6 –
After installing the MAD plugin winamp only starts with an error: "This application has failed to start because vcedit.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem". You have to stress _may_ because reinstalling doesn't do any good, the error remains. Does anybody know what could cause this problem and how to solve it?

And another question: in the winamp install there is a Nullsoft MPEG Audio Decoder plugin included. Is this the Fraunhofer version?

Anyone here use the MAD mp3 decoder winamp plugin?

Reply #7 –
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Originally posted by theduke
And another question: in the winamp install there is a Nullsoft MPEG Audio Decoder plugin included. Is this the Fraunhofer version?


Yes. And the quality is flawless.

Anyone here use the MAD mp3 decoder winamp plugin?

Reply #8 –
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Originally posted by theduke
After installing the MAD plugin winamp only starts with an error: "This application has failed to start because vcedit.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem". You have to stress _may_ because reinstalling doesn't do any good, the error remains. Does anybody know what could cause this problem and how to solve it?

The problem is that "vcedit.dll was not found". To solve it, find vcedit.dll.

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Originally posted by theduke
And another question: in the winamp install there is a Nullsoft MPEG Audio Decoder plugin included. Is this the Fraunhofer version?

Preferences -> Plugins -> Input -> Nullsoft MPEG Audio Decoder -> About:
"MPEG Layer-3 audio compression technology licensed by Fraunhofer IIS and THOMSON multimedia".

Anyone here use the MAD mp3 decoder winamp plugin?

Reply #9 –
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Originally posted by KAMiKAZOW
Preferences -> Plugins -> Input -> Nullsoft MPEG Audio Decoder -> About:
"MPEG Layer-3 audio compression technology licensed by Fraunhofer IIS and THOMSON multimedia".


That means it's licensed by Fraunhofer/Thomsom, but doesn't means it's their decoder.

FYI, the old Nitrane decoder showed the same sentence, and that wasn't FhG's decoder for sure.

Anyway, it's the FhG decoder there.

Anyone here use the MAD mp3 decoder winamp plugin?

Reply #10 –
I tried MAD I could never here a diffrence, tough myy ear's aren't that great.  Of course I couldn't here a diffrence with Nitrane either

Anyone here use the MAD mp3 decoder winamp plugin?

Reply #11 –
I can't use it to play streaming anymore,  since I switched to XP.  It drops the audio every 10 sec or so..

Anyone here use the MAD mp3 decoder winamp plugin?

Reply #12 –
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Originally posted by KAMiKAZOW

The problem is that "vcedit.dll was not found". To solve it, find vcedit.dll.

What a glorious idea, but I couldn't find this dll
I searched my harddisk if it had been deleted accidentally but there was no vcedit.dll. I also did a search in Google but even there was no link where to download this dll. Further help is appreciated.

Anyone here use the MAD mp3 decoder winamp plugin?

Reply #13 –
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Originally posted by theduke
I searched my harddisk if it had been deleted accidentally but there was no vcedit.dll. I also did a search in Google but even there was no link where to download this dll. Further help is appreciated.

Remove your Winamp directory completely and re-install it with necessary plugins. That should always work.
Btw, that .dll sounds like it has something to do with Vorbis, but I haven't seen any plugin use it. Vcedit means vorbis comment editor.

Anyone here use the MAD mp3 decoder winamp plugin?

Reply #14 –
I will try that immediately.

Google search for vcedit returned one result which was in the context of vorbis.

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Reply #15 –
I deinstalled Winamp but when i double click on an audio file winamp opens??!! That ain't funny! And when it is started the whole system becomes laggy and nearly hangs up.

I have a W98 partition on C: and a XP partition on D: Programs for XP are installed on D: and progs for W98 on E: The Winamp which is started (after deinstallation) is from partition E: Is XP that crappy that it mixes up everything or is Winamp responsible for all this troubles? It should be possible to install Winamp two times on different OS's.

edit: forgot to mention that the problems occur under XP

Anyone here use the MAD mp3 decoder winamp plugin?

Reply #16 –
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Originally posted by theduke
I deinstalled Winamp but when i double click on an audio file winamp opens??!! That ain't funny! And when it is started the whole system becomes laggy and nearly hangs up.

Lagging is new to me, but you can easily disable Winamp's file associations. Go to preferences (ctrl-P) -> Setup -> File Types and click on button labeled "Select none".

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I have a W98 partition on C: and a XP partition on D: Programs for XP are installed on D: and progs for W98 on E: The Winamp which is started (after deinstallation) is from partition E: Is XP that crappy that it mixes up everything or is Winamp responsible for all this troubles? It should be possible to install Winamp two times on different OS's.

Yes, it's possible and they shouldn't conflict in any way. Your lagging isn't caused by two installations, but I don't know what is causing it.
 

Anyone here use the MAD mp3 decoder winamp plugin?

Reply #17 –
I manually deleted lots of registry entries pointing to e:winampwinamp.exe instead of d:program fileswinampwinamp.exe and did a fresh install. Right now it works....I will install necessary plugins now.

Only thing which I don't like is this automatic crossfading feature. When you resume, pause or stop a song there is fading. I hope this can be turned off.

Anyone here use the MAD mp3 decoder winamp plugin?

Reply #18 –
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Originally posted by theduke
Only thing which I don't like is this automatic crossfading feature. When you resume, pause or stop a song there is fading. I hope this can be turned off.

Yes, it can. In Preferences -> Plugins -> Output either configure DirectSound output plugin and disable fadings, or select WaveOut output.

Anyone here use the MAD mp3 decoder winamp plugin?

Reply #19 –
Thx, I set the fade length to 0ms, there was no 'disable'. But I also installed SSRC plugin which makes crossfading plugin obsolete. What I always have wondered is what plugin Winamp uses if there are more for the same purpose, for example if I have crossfading and SSRC plugin. Can you clarify this for me?

Anyone here use the MAD mp3 decoder winamp plugin?

Reply #20 –
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Originally posted by theduke
Thx, I set the fade length to 0ms, there was no 'disable'.

Yes, there is. Double click on "on pause/stop" and uncheck "enable", do the same with "on seek".

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But I also installed SSRC plugin which makes crossfading plugin obsolete. What I always have wondered is what plugin Winamp uses if there are more for the same purpose, for example if I have crossfading and SSRC plugin. Can you clarify this for me?

Winamp uses the plugin you have highlighted on the config screen.

Anyone here use the MAD mp3 decoder winamp plugin?

Reply #21 –
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Originally posted by Case

Yes, there is. Double click on "on pause/stop" and uncheck "enable", do the same with "on seek".

Double-click, OMG, this was _not_ obvious.

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Winamp uses the plugin you have highlighted on the config screen.

I see. Wasn't sure of this.

Anyone here use the MAD mp3 decoder winamp plugin?

Reply #22 –
How does the MAD decoder rate *quality-wise* to the normal WinAmp FhG decoder? 
It may make songs sound "better" some or most of the time, but I worry the playback may not be flawless like WinAmp's decoder currently is.

Anyone here use the MAD mp3 decoder winamp plugin?

Reply #23 –
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Originally posted by Moguta
How does the MAD decoder rate *quality-wise* to the normal WinAmp FhG decoder? 


Nearly the same, if not the same.

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It may make songs sound "better" some or most of the time, but I worry the playback may not be flawless like WinAmp's decoder currently is.


The "song sounds better" is psychological. Mr. Garf tested it against the FhG decoder more than a hundred times. He said there was a difference, but extremely subtle. And, IIRC, he couldn't say if this difference made the track sound "better" or "worse" using MAD.

More info, and Garf's comments, here: http://ff123.net/madchallenge.html

Regards;

Roberto.