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best drive for ripping?

Reply #50 –
yea.
i noticed that everything i ripped so far had some small skips/pops, they are hard to notice (i didnt hear them AT ALL in WMP8).

anyways its my fault. now i understand how ripping to wav accurately is so important.

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Reply #51 –
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Originally posted by m0rbidini
But I also have a question: Some CD's freeze in EAC when it tries to detect the gaps. Sometimes if freezes in the ASUS, sometimes in Plextor, although  very very rarely, in both of them. Do you know why this happens? I'm sure I have all the right settings 'cause I got them from the SatCP page.
My suggestion would be that you don't use gap detection at all... Just rip the CD right off and then use a program to remove the "null samples" at the start and end of the audio within the wav file... I've made a program myself that does just that and it works really good...

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Reply #52 –
I wonder... as far as ripping & EAC -- if it's time for Andre to add an option for *triple* verifying of each sector rather than double (which I think still has 1:65536 chance of errors).  Drives have gotten pretty fast, and you only rip once...

I'd feel more confident with a triple verify, C2 is pretty useless with most drives except to speed things up.  The philosopy behind "Exact Audio Copy" should be reflected in the name, you would think? :ponder:

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Reply #53 –
xmixahlx, i just ripped using my Asus  DVD, not my cd writer, because EAC told me that its the recommended drive. the ripping was at about 20x (and 15.xx).
you also told me to use EAC just to rip the wav files, and i did. but now i dont know what to use to convert the wavs to ogg with the ID tags! (CDex cant accept remote files, only can rip from cds i think..)

I haven't read the tuts yet, but i'll read them soon.

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Reply #54 –
caleb,

read: http://www.ping.be/satcp/eacoffsets01.htm#-

it is the user submitted drive database associated with the satcp eac tutorials.

most likely:

your asus will be faster to rip dae, but your plextor will be able to read both lead-in and lead-out.

your plextor will most likely use audio cache, but imo, it is worth using the plextor drive cuz
1. it probably has better error correction - being able to read scratched cds better
2. it probably will be able to read cds with a protection scheme better
3. cd burners are known to give better rips
4. plextor is known as the best drives to use with eac.

someone picky like me would say "do the best possible" while others would say "do just enough." personally, i have no objection to "overkill" if it doesn't affect my life much...

in the end it is up to you whether you care about those aspects, cuz you might not ever need to rip a copyprotected cd, you may never use the offsets, you may not have any really scratched cds and you may just really want speed.

on the other hand, you could use the plextor and never have to worry about any of that...  and ~5mins per cd is chimp change...

@OGG:

really, i haven't used ogg in conjunction with eac and i never have used tags of any kind, and when i find them i delete them.

so i will let someone else reply to that aspect.


later
mike

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Reply #55 –
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Originally posted by Caleb
just to rip the wav files, and i did. but now i dont know what to use to convert the wavs to ogg with the ID tags! (CDex cant accept remote files, only can rip from cds i think..)

I haven't read the tuts yet, but i'll read them soon.


You could use OggDropXPd to encode your wav files... I'm pretty sure it has tagging support built in also. You can download it from RareWares:

http://www.inf.ufpr.br/~rja00/ogg.html


Jeff

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Reply #56 –
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Originally posted by xmixahlx
your plextor will most likely use audio cache, but imo, it is worth using the plextor drive cuz
1. it probably has better error correction - being able to read scratched cds better
2. it probably will be able to read cds with a protection scheme better
3. cd burners are known to give better rips
4. plextor is known as the best drives to use with eac.

I think the only reason that's true is that Andre used Plextors for designing/testing EAC.  The audio caching is not a good feature for ripping, and C2 is not recommended with Plextors (whereas it works better with some other drives).

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Reply #57 –
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Originally posted by jeffster


You could use OggDropXPd to encode your wav files... I'm pretty sure it has tagging support built in also. You can download it from RareWares:

http://www.inf.ufpr.br/~rja00/ogg.html


Jeff


hmm Oggdrop?
no.

i dont want to type in the ID3 tags manually.. no way.
EAC is accurate@ripping, but i prefer CDex because it already has an ogg vorbis encoder easily configurable and tags the files automatically.

Although when oggenc for RC4 is out, ill use EAC.

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Reply #58 –
I need a CDRW drive and because I had read many good things about the LiteOn's (LTR-40125/LTR-48125) I thought this was the way to go.

But then I read the info here (actually I also followed some links to the EAC forum) and now am not so sure about the quality of these drives when it comes to DAE.

(I was actually prepared to get the LiteOn LTD-163D DVD aswell -just for DAE, since this pair would still cost less than a Plextor -which (if I understand correctly) would do both jobs very well.)

Halcyon rated the LG GCE-8320B above just about everything else he tested!?! (including some Plexys)
Is this the way to go?

Question for Halcyon:

Is this drive that much better than the LiteOn DVD? (for DAE)

Please help.

peleton.

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Reply #59 –
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Originally posted by Caleb
i dont want to type in the ID3 tags manually.. no way.
EAC is accurate@ripping, but i prefer CDex because it already has an ogg vorbis encoder easily configurable and tags the files automatically.


Are you trying to get the Vorbis tags on your Ogg Vorbis files?  The newest version of EAC will do this automatically, if you select "Ogg Vorbis" as your encoder.  Don't check the "Add ID3 tag" option, because that'll add mp3's ID3 tags to your vorbis files, which is major bad voodoo.  If you want to use a non-integral quality level, just put "-q X" (where X is your desired quality level) in the additional options box.

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Reply #60 –
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Originally posted by xmixahlx


whatever floats your boat.  each format covered on the site [mp3, aac, ogg, mpc] are good when used correctly... but the important thing is to be able to rip your cds accurately in the first place.


Agreed.

Another suggestion to those ripping music, IF you have the storage, encode to FLAC or MAC (FLAC is preferred by HydrogenAudio due to it being open source and available on more platforms, while MAC usually produces slightly smaller files). This way, you can then transcode down into your favorite lossless format, and when burning your ripped files you get an exact copy of the music.

For Caleb wanting to extract and tag Ogg Vorbis using EAC, here is a (hopefully) easy to follow, step by step instruction sheet on what you need to do: http://www.geocities.com/newdb9/perfectrip.html

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Reply #61 –
For audio quality apparently the TEAC CD-W540E is the best drive to get, or at least one of the best drives to get.  It reads disks with the key2audio protection and the CDS200 protection, like all other PC drives I've seen it can't read the CDS100 protected disks.  DAE quality is absolutely perfect even with heavily scratched CDs.
It's not the fastest drive, but does manage almost 9X in EAC using secure mode.

Check it out at CDRInfo.com under the 40X hardware section.

G

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Reply #62 –
I decided to make the HP 8250i a backup for now. I found the offsets and all the bad news about this drive.  Funny thing is, as I said...I only had about 5 errors from ripping 800+ CDs with Audiograbber using it.  However, it has been acting up lately so I decided to get a new CDRW.

Time for the TEAC.