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Ogg and Windows Media Player

I'm trying to get ogg to play through Windows Media Player (can't install new players at work, but can get away with a new codec).  I've downloaded ogg_vorbis-acm.zip (can't remember where) but Media Player says it can't recognize the ogg files.  Can someone give me an idiot's guide to getting this working?

btw, I ripped (my own copy of) Bjork's Post album to wma at 160kbps, then tried ripping the same thing with Ogg.  I played with -q settings to get the same total file size for the album, and found that (for this album) -q5.54 (177.3kbps nominal) gave the same size.  Interesting result I thought, as so many quality comparisons are done at certain kbps/quality settings, as opposed to quality per megabyte.  I already know that ogg -q4.99 compares well with wma -160kbps, so squeezing that extra refinement into the same space is impressive.

Cheers, Paul

Ogg and Windows Media Player

Reply #1 –
go to http://tobias.everwicked.com and download his ogg directshow filter collection.  that should work fine.
Dan

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Reply #2 –
I tried the everwicked site, but the download is only 15.4k, and running the resulting exe gives me an NTVDM CPU error (illegal instruction) in W2K.

Cheers, Paul

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Reply #3 –
The installation download is sized at 382 KB and is entitled OggDS0991.exe. 

Under WinME, playback works like a charm on WMP 7.01.00.3055.

Ogg and Windows Media Player

Reply #4 –
Works excellent in XP and WMP 6.4 & 7 as well.

Ogg and Windows Media Player

Reply #5 –
Did you install the OggVorbis ACM correctly? There should be an ".INF" file in the zip ("vorbisacm.inf" I think) -- right-click it and select "Install".

Ogg and Windows Media Player

Reply #6 –
kjempen: Don't think they're talking about OggVorbisACM, but about Tobias's OggDS filters (which rock, incidentally).
http://tobias.everwicked.com/

gnoshi
happiness comes in brown paper bags.

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Reply #7 –
I believe I installed the acm file correctly (using the .inf), but that didn't seem to help.  I found Tobias's files elsewhere using Google, and that seems to work just fine!

Ogg and Windows Media Player

Reply #8 –
Vorbis ACM should only work with vorbis files wrapped in a Wav container, with a Wav header.

Ogg and Windows Media Player

Reply #9 –
i installed mediaXW it rocks "but OLD",when i install the new directshow filter and the vorbis ACM, i can't play OGG, got an error

Ogg and Windows Media Player

Reply #10 –
OggDS0991 makes WMP9 2848 crash here. So don't expect it to run on 4th september, when WMP9 goes public.

Ogg and Windows Media Player

Reply #11 –
OGG works on WMP9 with the old mediaXW

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Reply #12 –
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Originally posted by amososodef
OGG works on WMP9 with the old mediaXW


Old MediaXW makes my few Vorbis files undeletable in my Win2000

The thing is too damn buggy.

Ogg and Windows Media Player

Reply #13 –
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Old MediaXW makes my few Vorbis files undeletable in my Win2000

I had the same problem, and deinstalling the filters doesn´t helped, I had to delete all kind of ogg/vorbis from my registry manually (it took over half an hour). Also all ogg-files are not just always in use, after unistalling the fiters everytime I clicked (just clicked, not opened a file) with the extension ogg explorer.exe crashed.

Tobias Filters always worked for me, also the older versions (0.9.8 - 0.9.8.2) had some problems that wmp is crashing at the end of an ogg.
 

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Originally posted by S_O
I had the same problem, and deinstalling the filters doesn´t helped, I had to delete all kind of ogg/vorbis from my registry manually (it took over half an hour). Also all ogg-files are not just always in use, after unistalling the fiters everytime I clicked (just clicked, not opened a file) with the extension ogg explorer.exe crashed.


To "fix" that, I logged through Win98 (With NTFS driver) and deleted all my oggs. Now, I have only one vorbis file, for testing purposes.

Ogg and Windows Media Player

Reply #15 –
i installed "nimo codec pack" and with all directshow filter WMP8 crash:

"AppName: wmplayer.exe    AppVer: 9.0.0.2848    ModName: mmswitch.ax
ModVer: 0.9.4.0    Offset: 00004e86"

can U help me?

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Reply #16 –
click start -> run and enter "regsvr32 mmswitch.ax /u"
The filter is the Morgan Stream Switcher, which allows to change the audio-stream in avis, but it is very buggy and causes crashes very often.

Ogg and Windows Media Player

Reply #17 –
I've been looking for an ogg ACM codec package.  I downloaded and installed ogg_vorbis-acm.zip. I then tried to use Vorbis as my audio in an AVI video.  I rendered a file and tryied to play it back.  It didn't work.  It crashed all the players I used.....WMP, RealOne...ect.  The options it offers are very limited anyway.  At least it's a start. 

MINz

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Reply #18 –
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I've been looking for an ogg ACM codec package.

http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA012897/
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I then tried to use Vorbis as my audio in an AVI video. I rendered a file and tryied to play it back. It didn't work.

VBR-Audio doesn´t work in AVI. Vorbis is VBR, so it will never work in AVI without problems. But that the player crashes is not normal, normally the is yust out of sync and seeking doesn´t work. How did you create the avi? Use VirtualDub, it´s the best program for creating AVI, and it´s free.

A way to get around these problems (out of sync, seeking erorrs...): Do not use AVI! Use OGG as container with the DirectShow-Filters of Tobias. Create your avi with compressed video as you would use it in avi, but extract the audio to wav, encode it to Vorbis, then mux it with the video in an new OGG with OggMux. The ogm-file (.ogm = OGG Media, because .ogg stands always for OGG Vorbis and so it´s easier to see what is video and what only audio) is playable in nearly every player. For further questions about creating ogm or an other video-related stuff go to http://www.everwicked.com

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Reply #19 –
use WMP6.4 instead.

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Reply #20 –
VBR-Audio does work in AVI! There are only a few players, which get confused
I have many AVIs with MP3 VBR audio tracks and they all play fine with mplayer, wmp 7 and this DivX player

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Reply #21 –
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VBR-Audio does work in AVI!

Not correctly!! It is just a poor hack to enable VBR-MP3 in avi and many peoples have problems with vbr-mp3-avis. Does seeking also work? No avi-player was ment to decode VBR-Audio-AVIs, maybe newer one has been reworked to decode this hack, but is like creating a freeform-vbr mp3 (I have never seen tool doing that), even if your player decodes it, many others will not and it´s not within the specs. And there are better solutions, so there is no reason to use VBR-Audio-AVIs, because there is OGG, which is optimized for VBR.
If you don´t believe me, read what Avery Lee (the programmer of VirtualDub said about VBR in AVI): f*ck, it´s gone with the rework of the VirtualDub homepage some weeks ago, it was in the news from December 2001, maybe you find it somewhere.