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MPC WinAmp plugin 0.92d

Reply #2 –
Yes, unfortunately the slider bug is still there.

MPC WinAmp plugin 0.92d

Reply #3 –
I'll take a stab at fixing it. Give me a few...

MPC WinAmp plugin 0.92d

Reply #4 –
The problem is user's system font size. If the image itself is made smaller, it'll look fine for those that use the default font size, but too small for those that use a larger font size.

The way to fix it would be to use GetSystemMetrics() and get the sizes of the controls and create the color bar image on the fly. I would do this, but I currently do not have the time.

Another solution would be to lose the color bar all together. How many minimalists do we have in lurking around?

MPC WinAmp plugin 0.92d

Reply #5 –
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Originally posted by Trelane
The problem is user's system font size. If the image itself is made smaller, it'll look fine for those that use the default font size, but too small for those that use a larger font size.

Errr... shouldn't a program take into account the defaults, and let people who change them worry about 'side effects'?  I'm speaking as an (occasional) programmer, BTW.

MPC WinAmp plugin 0.92d

Reply #6 –
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Originally posted by fewtch
Errr... shouldn't a program take into account the defaults, and let people who change them worry about 'side effects'?  I'm speaking as an (occasional) programmer, BTW. 


Well, AFAIK, i use the default font size and type. Never changed these settings.

And it's easy to notice how the color bar gets nearly out of the config window.

(Believe me, the portuguese version of the plugin is even worse. The color bar gets over the K values. I'm pretty sure it's not due to my translation. Thanks God I don't use MPC)

Regards;

Roberto.

MPC WinAmp plugin 0.92d

Reply #7 –
Quote
Originally posted by fewtch

Errr... shouldn't a program take into account the defaults, and let people who change them worry about 'side effects'?


I agree to a point. I think that a program should be built around the system defaults, but those who deviate needn't suffer (much). If you ask me, I think the best solution right now would be to just remove the color bar until it can be implemented correctly... but I don't work on the Winamp plugin and have no real say in the matter.
 

MPC WinAmp plugin 0.92d

Reply #8 –
Yah, lose the colour bar all together. Do we really need such *fancy* craphics on a small WinAmp plugin that does marvelous wonders for audio? The plugin itself works fine for me, its just the cosmetic bug that is bugged. Other than that keep those updates coming!

Cheers
AgentMil
-=MusePack... Living Audio Compression=-

Honda - The Power of Dreams

MPC WinAmp plugin 0.92d

Reply #9 –
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Originally posted by rjamorim


Well, AFAIK, i use the default font size and type. Never changed these settings.

And it's easy to notice how the color bar gets nearly out of the config window.

(Believe me, the portuguese version of the plugin is even worse. The color bar gets over the K values. I'm pretty sure it's not due to my translation. Thanks God I don't use MPC)

Regards;

Roberto.


Default settings are mostly unusable. Try standard fonts on
a Dell Inspiron 8100. Display has 133 dpi. Looks unreadable
at 100% font size. Looks nice at 150% font size. The best
display I every saw.

Thanks God that you can't use MPC because the wrong display
damage sound quality.
--  Frank Klemm

MPC WinAmp plugin 0.92d

Reply #10 –
Quote
Originally posted by Frank Klemm
Thanks God that you can't use MPC because the wrong display
damage sound quality.


(Peacemaker mode on)

Blah.
Frank, this sarcasm doesn't really become you.
(Though I thoroughly enjoyed reading your "No bugs for Replaygain" section on your homepage)

Roberto is just an AAC acolyte as I am a Vorbis. It has nothing to do with MPC. It's just that he prefers AAC for some obscure reason.

Everybody else knows that Vorbis is the second coming

(Peacemaker mode off)

MPC WinAmp plugin 0.92d

Reply #11 –
Quote
Originally posted by AgentMil
Yah, lose the colour bar all together. Do we really need such *fancy* craphics on a small WinAmp plugin that does marvelous wonders for audio? The plugin itself works fine for me, its just the cosmetic bug that is bugged. Other than that keep those updates coming!


It is easy to remove the color bar.  Just download Resource Hacker:

http://www.rpi.net.au/~ajohnson/resourcehacker/

Open in_mpc.dll, look for that dialog box, then highlight the color bar and press delete.  Compile the script, save and enjoy!

JKML 

p.s. The original file will be renamed to in_mpc_original.dll.  Just move it to somewhere so that Winamp won't load both files.

MPC WinAmp plugin 0.92d

Reply #12 –
Quote
Originally posted by YinYang
Roberto is just an AAC acolyte as I am a Vorbis. It has nothing to do with MPC. It's just that he prefers AAC for some obscure reason.




Thanks for clarifying things out, YinYang.

MPC WinAmp plugin 0.92d

Reply #13 –
People who can't stand the colorbar going over the config screen can try my latest modification. This features pre-amp setting instead of headroom. Don't convert tag types with this, it only works in my modified 0.92b.
http://www.saunalahti.fi/~cse/in_mpc_test.zip

MPC WinAmp plugin 0.92d

Reply #14 –
Another note for those who don't like the colour bar *bug*, just use the resource hacker link posted by jkml. It works and I report no bugs but doing this. So this is the end of the graphic *bug* saga  Hopefully!

Cheers
AgentMil
-=MusePack... Living Audio Compression=-

Honda - The Power of Dreams

MPC WinAmp plugin 0.92d

Reply #15 –
Didn't this color bar appear correctly in a previous version of the plugin? Why is it wrong now?

MPC WinAmp plugin 0.92d

Reply #16 –
Quote
Originally posted by Case
People who can't stand the colorbar going over the config screen can try my latest modification. This features pre-amp setting instead of headroom.


Half a year I started (but not finished) a
project to unify the two volume controls of
a soundcard:

  - PCM output gain
  - Mixer gain

The aim was to get the best SNR as possible and
to have a calibrated control for loudness.
Input was a attenuation setting (p.e. -17.3 dB)
and the program sets all control so no distortions
occured. Sound card was calibarted and check via
a simple loop back cable.

So for instance the -17.3 dB was divided into:
  - PCM output gain:    -6 dB
  - Mixer output gain:  -10 dB
  - PCM multiplier:      0.861

Instead of reducing the number of gain controls
from 2 to 1, we are increasing the number from
2 to 4
  - PCM output gain
  - Mixer gain
  - Equalizer preamp
  - Replaygain preamp

Even a technical person is now nearly unable to
set up playback so that:
  - no distortions occure
  - SNR is best possible

This still do not take into account that a
LOT of soundcards distore below -0 dB.

May the whole concept is broken.
A single volume slider for the whole system
instead of 4 controls. Replay gains task
is to avoid distortion as long as possible.
No preamp is needed, even for equalizer,
replaygain or other effect plugins.

May be this read a person from WinAMP or MJB.
--  Frank Klemm