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New WMA encoder

It seems that FFmpeg now has a native WMA v1 & v2 encoder written by Michael Niedermayer.  I tried it out and it works for me.

ffmpeg -i test.wav -acodec wmav2 -ab 128 test.wma

It looks like it's fairly preliminary at this stage (several "not implemented yet" comments), but I thought it was worth a mention here.

-Justin

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Quote from: Justin Ruggles on
It seems that FFmpeg now has a native WMA v1 & v2 encoder written by Michael Niedermayer.  I tried it out and it works for me.

ffmpeg -i test.wav -acodec wmav2 -ab 128 test.wma

It looks like it's fairly preliminary at this stage (several "not implemented yet" comments), but I thought it was worth a mention here.

-Justin


does it better than normal wma? any program with gui that can encode that wma? i don't know how to encode via command line,i'm newbie here

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Quote from: XII on
does it better than normal wma? any program with gui that can encode that wma? i don't know how to encode via command line,i'm newbie here


WinLAME (I use) and Windows Media Encoder. The former is an open source frontend, while the latter is MS' official tool. WinLAME autodetects the location of the encoder, so there's no need to mess with that or any CLI options whatsoever. WME offers a LOT more settings, but batch encoding is a lot simpler in WinLAME.

No need to be ashamed of not being a CLI fan, most people who aren't under the far ends of the bell curve aren't either. Including myself. It's all very subjective, varying from person to person. I do a lot better with GUIs, but other people swear by CLI.
EAC>1)fb2k>LAME3.99 -V 0 --vbr-new>WMP12 2)MAC-Extra High

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Weren't WMA V1&V2 the oldest WMA encoders?
It said on dbpoweramp webpage: "Windows Media Audio v2 was the first, then v4, v7, v8, v9, v9.1 (and v9 PRO), v9.2 and v10 PRO."

IMO, it would be better to use one of the recent versions. If you want a command-line encoder, there's one in Windows Media 8 Encoding Utility.

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Quote from: zombiewerewolf on
Weren't WMA V1&V2 the oldest WMA encoders?
It said on dbpoweramp webpage: "Windows Media Audio v2 was the first, then v4, v7, v8, v9, v9.1 (and v9 PRO), v9.2 and v10 PRO."


If I remember correctly the file format has been stable since v2. The later numbers are just version numbers of encoders. The pro variation on the other hand is another format.

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Hmm, a WMA encoder for Linux finally. Doubt if it'll get any serious use though...
"It's the panties fault! The panties made me a pervert!"

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Quote from: XII on
does it better than normal wma?


I haven't listened to it, but I wouldn't expect it to. FFmpeg tends to first just implement what is barely necessary to create compliant streams, and only later maybe worry about tuning. Check their AC3 and Vorbis encoders as examples.

Quote from: Latexxx on
If I remember correctly the file format has been stable since v2. The later numbers are just version numbers of encoders. The pro variation on the other hand is another format.


Indeed, WMA all the way up to the one that comes with Windows Media Player 10 is backwards compatible to WMAv2. WMA in WMP11 is mostly compatible too, but it also features a parametric encoding part similar to SBR that is not decodable on old decoders.
Edit: I don't know if MS has some version number for this new WMA, like WMAv11 or WMAv3.

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Quote from: Justin Ruggles on
It seems that FFmpeg now has a native WMA v1 & v2 encoder
Cool.  I wonder how it stacks up against the MS wma2 encoders (as available with out_wma for winamp, the wma2 codec for dbpoweramp, and the divx audio acm codec).


Quote from: rjamorim on
I don't know if MS has some version number for this new WMA, like WMAv11 or WMAv3.
I thought it was just WMA10+ 
Vorbis-q0-lowpass99
lame3.93.1-q5-V9-k-nspsytune

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Quote from: gameplaya15143 on
Quote from: rjamorim on
I don't know if MS has some version number for this new WMA, like WMAv11 or WMAv3.
I thought it was just WMA10+ 


I suspect that denomination was pretty much created at Sebastian Mares' listening test thread. It was never used in any Microsoft documentation, AFAIK.

http://www.google.com/search?q=WMA10%2B&am...50&filter=0

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I use WMA Std as my ripping format, and to my knowledge the latest version thereof is 9.2.

I don't use Pro or Lossless so I won't speak about those.
EAC>1)fb2k>LAME3.99 -V 0 --vbr-new>WMP12 2)MAC-Extra High

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Quote from: zombiewerewolf on
Weren't WMA V1&V2 the oldest WMA encoders?
It said on dbpoweramp webpage: "Windows Media Audio v2 was the first, then v4, v7, v8, v9, v9.1 (and v9 PRO), v9.2 and v10 PRO."

IMO, it would be better to use one of the recent versions. If you want a command-line encoder, there's one in Windows Media 8 Encoding Utility.

I use the one from Microsoft, which I installed a while ago and set up for use in foobar2000 the day I read that tagging had been implemented. It is version 9.1 (I use Std setting) but fb2k 0.9.4.2 always says WMAv2 when looking at the properties of any files created. I don't really use WMA for anything. Was only playing around, doing experiments with my Rio Karma portable.

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Quote from: CyberFoxx on

Hmm, a WMA encoder for Linux finally. Doubt if it'll get any serious use though...


I would be amazed if it did get use. Most linux users use MP3 and ogg.


There are Mac users (and programmers) to consider, too.  Due to the current quality, I don't expect it will get much general use either, but for compatibility with some portable players it could be useful...at high bitrates at least.

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Quote from: Justin Ruggles on
Quote from: dannyb37 on
Quote from: CyberFoxx on

Hmm, a WMA encoder for Linux finally. Doubt if it'll get any serious use though...


I would be amazed if it did get use. Most linux users use MP3 and ogg.


There are Mac users (and programmers) to consider, too.  Due to the current quality, I don't expect it will get much general use either, but for compatibility with some portable players it could be useful...at high bitrates at least.


It might also be very useful in Linux streaming servers.
 

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