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Title: iTunes 7.1 offers full-screen Cover Flow mode
Post by: Galley on 2007-03-06 00:11:29
iLounge article (http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/instant-expert-secrets-features-of-itunes-71/)

The new full-screen Cover Flow mode is slicker than snot! 
Title: iTunes 7.1 offers full-screen Cover Flow mode
Post by: ShowsOn on 2007-03-06 01:45:13
Doesn't look like the AAC encoder has changed. I'm getting exaclty the same file sizes when encoding to 128 Kbps VBR.
Title: iTunes 7.1 offers full-screen Cover Flow mode
Post by: kornchild2002 on 2007-03-06 02:49:00
Still no official Windows Vista support.  It runs just fine on my system but Apple needs to get their stuff together make an official Windows Vista compatible iTunes release.
Title: iTunes 7.1 offers full-screen Cover Flow mode
Post by: marmoset on 2007-03-06 04:27:26
Doesn't look like the AAC encoder has changed. I'm getting exaclty the same file sizes when encoding to 128 Kbps VBR.


Seems like the encoder dropdown offers more bitrates than before -- didn't AAC bitrates top off at 256kbps before (goes up to 320 now)?
Title: iTunes 7.1 offers full-screen Cover Flow mode
Post by: kornchild2002 on 2007-03-06 04:58:58

Doesn't look like the AAC encoder has changed. I'm getting exaclty the same file sizes when encoding to 128 Kbps VBR.


Seems like the encoder dropdown offers more bitrates than before -- didn't AAC bitrates top off at 256kbps before (goes up to 320 now)?


No, it always went up to 320kbps.
Title: iTunes 7.1 offers full-screen Cover Flow mode
Post by: jevinsweval on 2007-03-06 05:39:34
My Nero encoded AAC files seem to play back gaplessly now!
Title: iTunes 7.1 offers full-screen Cover Flow mode
Post by: ffooky on 2007-03-06 07:43:12
I noticed the gapless playback being recalculated on a few songs in my library after upgrading.
Title: iTunes 7.1 offers full-screen Cover Flow mode
Post by: ozmosis82 on 2007-03-06 08:19:09
I can also confirm gapless Nero AAC playback, both in iTunes and on my 5.5g 80GB iPod with firmware v1.2.1

THANK YOU APPLE!!   
Title: iTunes 7.1 offers full-screen Cover Flow mode
Post by: tycho on 2007-03-06 08:49:05
I can also confirm gapless Nero AAC playback, both in iTunes and on my 5.5g 80GB iPod with firmware v1.2.1

THANK YOU APPLE!!   

This is great news. Time to replace lame -V5 with neroaacenc -lc -q 0.21 for my 2g Nano. That should give roughly the same quality (I guess), but reducing bitrate from ~138 -> ~88. Still need mp3 for my car player though.
Title: iTunes 7.1 offers full-screen Cover Flow mode
Post by: Garfield4 on 2007-03-06 09:01:45
iLounge article (http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/instant-expert-secrets-features-of-itunes-71/)

The new full-screen Cover Flow mode is slicker than snot! 


Natural progression should let you see album track list on click like their iphone demo, send to playlist would be nice to...will start using it once multi-plugin is updated 
Title: iTunes 7.1 offers full-screen Cover Flow mode
Post by: eofor on 2007-03-06 09:04:26
No fixes in the AAC decoder yet (IS, PNS, HE-AAC)?
Title: iTunes 7.1 offers full-screen Cover Flow mode
Post by: Maurits on 2007-03-06 11:55:48
Encoder updates from Apple are generally QuickTime related, not iTunes related. In a way iTunes is just a frontend for QuickTime's codecs.

Now, QuickTime is updated as well so an codec update would have been possible. However, if there is going to be any codec update I'm pretty sure it will coincide with OS X Leopard. Those updates will then trickle down via QuickTime for OS X Tiger and Windows users.

I hope iTunes/QuickTime is going to support HE-AAC. Even if it is just for streaming radio. iTunes is getting worse and worse for internet radio now HE-AAC seems to gain popularity for radio streams.
Title: iTunes 7.1 offers full-screen Cover Flow mode
Post by: jahty on 2007-03-06 18:28:31
Also of note: compatibility with ID3v2.4 tags - no more annoying squares at the end of names. There are also some cool new sorting tags you can enter into files (sort name, sort artist, etc.). A nice release from Apple.
Title: iTunes 7.1 offers full-screen Cover Flow mode
Post by: chrisgeleven on 2007-03-06 19:15:44
If only there was a version of the Nero AAC encoder for Macs...

I just don't trust Apple's version of AAC VBR.
Title: iTunes 7.1 offers full-screen Cover Flow mode
Post by: Josh. on 2007-03-06 19:37:18
I must say, the full screen coverflow looks SWEET. Very juke-boxy. Too bad whenever I use it, iTune's RAM usage jumps up to 200MB or so
Title: iTunes 7.1 offers full-screen Cover Flow mode
Post by: jarsonic on 2007-03-06 19:55:45
If only there was a version of the Nero AAC encoder for Macs...

I just don't trust Apple's version of AAC VBR.



It's actually quite good.  Check out previous listening tests (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=40607) to back up that claim.
Title: iTunes 7.1 offers full-screen Cover Flow mode
Post by: Jens Rex on 2007-03-06 20:06:15
Also of note: compatibility with ID3v2.4 tags - no more annoying squares at the end of names.

O RLY?

(http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/7/3/6/f_dmbm_fb13f62.png)
Title: iTunes 7.1 offers full-screen Cover Flow mode
Post by: jahty on 2007-03-06 21:43:19
Also of note: compatibility with ID3v2.4 tags - no more annoying squares at the end of names.

O RLY?

(http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/7/3/6/f_dmbm_fb13f62.png)


Hmm, ok. It worked on one of my computers but not another. Not sure what the difference is between the two.
Title: iTunes 7.1 offers full-screen Cover Flow mode
Post by: eofor on 2007-03-06 21:46:34
I must say, the full screen coverflow looks SWEET. Very juke-boxy. Too bad whenever I use it, iTune's RAM usage jumps up to 200MB or so

It looks great and it's pretty snappy too. One evening with fullscreen Cover Flow as a visual jukebox shows a few shortcomings though:
- never thought I'd miss it, but having no time counter ("3:46") or track number ("4 of 12") on screen feels weird
- the vis button on the remote doesn't seem to take iTunes into full screen visualization
- no SMS-style number keys (ie, pressing the "8" key three times does't take you to the first "V" artist as most applications do, but instead drops me off at the first 808 State album)
- font size is way way way too big in SD TV-res (720x576), the track/title info takes up more screen space than the covers (just found out it can be changed)
- mute button doesn't work

Nothing that can't easily be fixed, though.
Title: iTunes 7.1 offers full-screen Cover Flow mode
Post by: Cygnus X1 on 2007-03-06 22:05:24
Quicktime for OS X was also updated yesterday to 7.1.5 - unfortunately, still no fix for the long-standing stereo imaging issues that some of us have noted.

On the other hand, I'm glad that iTunes and 5G iPods will now play back Nero encodings gaplessly - screw QT!
Title: iTunes 7.1 offers full-screen Cover Flow mode
Post by: chrisgeleven on 2007-03-07 01:46:11

If only there was a version of the Nero AAC encoder for Macs...

I just don't trust Apple's version of AAC VBR.



It's actually quite good.  Check out previous listening tests (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=40607) to back up that claim.


Until the stereo issue is fixed, I don't want to risk re-encoding with iTunes AAC.

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....41278&st=25 (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=41278&st=25)
Title: iTunes 7.1 offers full-screen Cover Flow mode
Post by: ozmosis82 on 2007-03-07 05:00:39


If only there was a version of the Nero AAC encoder for Macs...

I just don't trust Apple's version of AAC VBR.



It's actually quite good.  Check out previous listening tests (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=40607) to back up that claim.


Until the stereo issue is fixed, I don't want to risk re-encoding with iTunes AAC.

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....41278&st=25 (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=41278&st=25)

I'm basically waiting until Leopard comes out before I score my first Mac in... well, something like 16 years or so. I'm not going to let that stop me from using Nero though. I'll just boot camp it. I've pretty much already accepted the fact that I'm probably going to use Boot Camp a fair bit. I'm cool with that.
Title: iTunes 7.1 offers full-screen Cover Flow mode
Post by: carlosgp on 2007-03-07 19:52:21
It seems that this version does not work well with iTunes-LAME Encoder. Some of the encoded files are not tagged. Could anybody confirm this?
Title: iTunes 7.1 offers full-screen Cover Flow mode
Post by: tarsier on 2007-03-08 03:05:10
On the other hand, I'm glad that iTunes and 5G iPods will now play back Nero encodings gaplessly - screw QT!

How is this supposed to work?  There wasn't a firmware update was there?  I have a 30 Gig 5.5G iPod with firmware 1.2.1 and after I updated iTunes to the new version 7.1.0.59 my nero encoded files still didn't playback gaplessly.
Title: iTunes 7.1 offers full-screen Cover Flow mode
Post by: AndersHu on 2007-03-11 23:53:10
How is this supposed to work?  There wasn't a firmware update was there?


I suppose there was no need for a firmware update for the iPod since it already supported gapless playback of iTunes encoded AAC-files. iTunes can convert the Nero gapless metadata to the format used by the iPod.

On my 60 Gig 5G iPod the Nero files plays gapless if the have a .m4a extension, but not if the have a .mp4 extension.

Anders