Today we realized Foobar on Windows cannot play radio stream anymore.
When we click some channel in playlist, it only play audio host that said something like this:
"An Important Message.
Due to the Licensing Restriction.
Free access to stream radio channel is now only available on website or through official mobile apps."
WTH is this ?
Not sure what kind of answers you expect? If you don't like the new licensing restrictions of your radio stream providers this is clearly the wrong place to complain about that, because foobar2000 can't do anything about that.
Not sure what kind of answers you expect? If you don't like the new licensing restrictions of your radio stream providers this is clearly the wrong place to complain about that, because foobar2000 can't do anything about that.
Does not sound like complaining.
I am here just to check what really happened.
Maybe the radio stations want Foobar to send some royalty to them.
Who knows?
These channels listed in my Foobar playlist, all returned with the new Licensing Restricted message, all dead now.
Digitally Imported AAC+
00's Club Hits Ambient Bass & Jackin' House Bassline Big Beat Big Room House Breaks ChillHop Chillout Chillout Dreams Chillstep Chill & Tropical House Classic EuroDance Classic EuroDisco Classic Trance Classic Vocal Trance Club Dubstep Club Sounds Dark DnB Dark PsyTrance Deep House Deep Nu-Disco Deep Tech Detroit House & Techno Disco House DJ Mixes Downtempo Lounge Drum 'n Bass Drumstep Dub Dubstep Dub Techno EBM EcLectronica Electro House Electronic Pioneers Electronics Electropop Electro Swing Epic Trance EuroDance Funky House Future Beats Future Garage Future Synthpop Gabber Glitch Hop Goa-Psy Trance Hands Up Hardcore Hard Dance Hardstyle Hard Techno House IDM Indie Dance Jungle Jazz House Latin House Liquid DnB Liquid Dubstep Liquid Trap Lounge Mainstage Melodic Progressive Minimal Nightcore Nu Disco Oldschool Acid Oldschool House Oldschool Rave Oldschool Techno & Trance Progressive Progressive Psy Psybient PsyChill Russian Club Hits Soulful House Space Dreams Tech House Techno Trance Trap Tribal House UMF Radio Underground Techno Vocal Chillout Vocal Lounge Vocal Trance
RadioTunes AAC+
00's Hits 00's R&B 60's Rock 80's Alt & New Wave 80's Dance 80's Rock Hits 90's Hits 90's R&B Alternative Rock Ambient American Songbook Baroque Period Bebop Jazz Best of the 60's Best of the 80's Blues Rock Bossa Nova Café de Paris Chillout Classic Christmas Classic Hip-Hop Classic Motown Classic Rock Classical Guitar Classical Period Classical Piano Trios Club Bollywood Contemporary Christian Country Dance Hits Dave Koz & Friends DaTempo Lounge Disco Party Downtempo Lounge Dreamscapes EDM Fest EuroDance Halloween Hard Rock Hit 70's Holiday Smooth Jazz Indie Rock Jazz Classics Jpop Lounge Love Music Meditation Mellow Jazz Mellow Smooth Jazz Metal Modern Blues Modern Rock Mostly Classical Movie Soundtracks Mozart Nature New Age Old School Funk & Soul Oldies Piano Jazz Pop Christmas Pop Rock Reggaeton Relaxation Relaxing Ambient Piano Romantic Period Romantica Roots Reggae Salsa Slow Jams Smooth Bossa Nova Smooth Jazz Smooth Jazz 24'7 Smooth Lounge Soft Rock Solo Piano Top Hits Uptempo Smooth Jazz Urban Hits Urban Pop Hits Vocal Chillout Vocal Lounge Vocal New Age Vocal Smooth Jazz World
There's no other apps on this planet that equal Foobar for playing audio.
Programmable Reverb
Noise Sharpening
Freeverb DSP
FreeSurround
Dolby Headphone
There are no DSPs like that in their official apps or or website player.
Sadly, it looks like you can't use foobar anymore, unless it can pretend to be the website or an official app.
Does not sound like complaining.
These channels listed in my Foobar playlist, all returned with the new Licensing Restricted message, all dead now.
There are no DSPs like that in their official apps or or website player.
Does not sound like complaining.
Now it does.
Sadly, it looks like you can't use foobar anymore, unless it can pretend to be the website or an official app.
Website -> Virtual soundcard -> foo_record -> foobar2000 audio engine -> real sound card?
But I'm not sure that it can work reliably.
Route foobar2000 through a proxy that spoofs user-agent? Might take a look at this after work. There might be an elegant solution. This restriction is utter bullshit and there's likely a quick and easy technical workaround (that might be outside the scope of the Terms of Service here, TBH...)
EDIT: Not simple, but not too hard. Probably a couple hours' dev time? Of course, it's an arms race scenario, so you can't go too public with it or they'll patch the hole.
Some programs allow to override their default User-Agent string...
We should expect more stations to follow the same direction....
https://www.hydrogenaud.io/forums/index.php...st&p=913827 (https://www.hydrogenaud.io/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=110932&view=findpost&p=913827)
Its certainly not Foobar2000's fault....
It still works for me to listen on DI through Foobar. I tried only listening on the Minimal channel and Liquid Dnb (and tried it for a few minutes only). My region is Sweden and have DI Premium. Have they turned streaming off only for non-premium and/or certain regions? (Guess DI support can answer that)
Foobar has not been blacklisted. Every media player that can stream will no longer work thanks to new royalty rates small broadcaster are forced to pay. Most will close up shop or require you to use their app and/or website in order to listen to their streams so that they can generate ad revenue.
Radiotunes has a message that explains this on their streams. You should have listened more closely
Radiotunes.com have posted a letter.
http://www.radiotunes.com/founder-letter (http://www.radiotunes.com/founder-letter)
Radiotunes.com have posted a letter.
http://www.radiotunes.com/founder-letter (http://www.radiotunes.com/founder-letter)
Sad news for people outside US...
I'm really looking for a solution to spoof or whatever needed to play these radios in Foobar.
http://www.radiotunes.com/founder-letter]Radiotunes.com have posted a letter. (http://www.radiotunes.com/founder-letter)
In the final weeks of 2015, the Copyright Royalty Board (CRB) in the United States imposed new royalty rates for the years spanning 2016-2020. In the process, this move also eliminated the special royalty rates which existed for small webcasters such as RadioTunes.
Effective January, 2016, our royalty costs will therefore increase dramatically, as they will for all the other independent webcasters in the US. I am sad to say that many will likely not stay in business as advertising revenue will not be enough to pay for their costs.
Damn, what a blow to online radio. Looking at the posted list above there would be hundreds, if not thousands, more affected stations.
So basically, even the smallest of non-commercial broadcasters must pay $500 per year per channel. Those that exceed the equivalent of 18 listeners idling on the station 24/7/365, must pay the per-song rate above the minimum listening time. And they expect full playlists for the entire covered period, monthly, and payments in the form of check, money order, or bank transfer.
I don't know how they expect they can enforce this for small, unknown stations.
http://howtohelp.saveinternetradio.info/ (http://howtohelp.saveinternetradio.info/)
Any news/hack available yet? :(
I mean , it's still impossible to listen to DI on media/radio players?
Cheers...
I doubt it, but thanks for posting, all the same.
I doubt it, but thanks for posting, all the same.
That´s sad.
Thx for answering.
Cheers..
I don't know for sure. But you're welcome to try it. I assume all streaming radio services require you to use their own playback apps or web pages now, as a result of steep regulation and licensing fees.