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Any plan to support multi-track files?

I've been enjoying being able to turn a whole album into a single FLAC file that embeds the information for all the tracks. At the moment, I prefer turning all my albums into these multi-track files using Foobar 2000 desktop. Unlike the desktop version, however, while these files can be played on the Foobar 2000 mobile, they won't be separated into individual tracks.

I wonder if there is a plan to include the same support for these multi-track files on the mobile version in the future.  ???

Re: Any plan to support multi-track files?

Reply #1 –
what is the benefit of this without just using a normal cue sheet ?
PC - Teac UD-505 - Adam Audio A4V + Sub7 - DCA ÆON Open X - TinHifi P1 Max.
Samsung S23 Ultra 512GB - Galaxy Buds3 Pro.

Re: Any plan to support multi-track files?

Reply #2 –
Quote from: DClaville on
what is the benefit of this without just using a normal cue sheet ?
To me, it's about how tidy it is when everything is included in a single .FLAC file. Additionally, .cue does not always work without some tweaking (for example, changing character encoding method). With that said, I'm not that familiar with .cue file, so it probably works better for someone who knows better.

Re: Any plan to support multi-track files?

Reply #3 –
It isn't clear what you mean by multi-track files: FLAC with embedded cuesheet or chained FLAC in oga (ogg) container.

Re: Any plan to support multi-track files?

Reply #4 –
Quote from: Fat Otaku on
Quote from: DClaville on
what is the benefit of this without just using a normal cue sheet ?
To me, it's about how tidy it is when everything is included in a single .FLAC file. Additionally, .cue does not always work without some tweaking (for example, changing character encoding method). With that said, I'm not that familiar with .cue file, so it probably works better for someone who knows better.
well if one use a filesystem without folders it could be more tidy lol, but honestly it just sounds like some silly idea that makes albums less usable, while wanting the same result in the player.

but good luck
PC - Teac UD-505 - Adam Audio A4V + Sub7 - DCA ÆON Open X - TinHifi P1 Max.
Samsung S23 Ultra 512GB - Galaxy Buds3 Pro.

Re: Any plan to support multi-track files?

Reply #5 –
Quote from: Bogozo on
It isn't clear what you mean by multi-track files: FLAC with embedded cuesheet or chained FLAC in oga (ogg) container.
I'm not entirely sure tbh. I posted the option I selected in the Foobar 2000's file converter to get the multi-track file. I can't yet find a clear answer of how Foobar 2000 does it.

Re: Any plan to support multi-track files?

Reply #6 –
Then it is not ogg container.

Hunch - and don't take that as an insult, we all make mistakes: 
You have converted to .flac with additional .cue file, and copied over only the .flac - or then, opened the .flac and not the .cue?

Re: Any plan to support multi-track files?

Reply #7 –
Quote from: Porcus on
You have converted to .flac with additional .cue file, and copied over only the .flac - or then, opened the .flac and not the .cue?
fb2k converter creates FLAC with embedded cue in this case. I tested and mobile version indeed ignores embedded cue.

Re: Any plan to support multi-track files?

Reply #8 –
Quote from: Porcus on
Then it is not ogg container.

Hunch - and don't take that as an insult, we all make mistakes: 
You have converted to .flac with additional .cue file, and copied over only the .flac - or then, opened the .flac and not the .cue?

No problem, I understand you were trying to make sure we are on the same page👌. As Bogozo correctly pointed out (Thanks! Bogozo), fb2k will create a mere FLAC file, presumably with cue information embedded within. There were no separate .cue file created during the process.

Re: Any plan to support multi-track files?

Reply #9 –
Standard practice: One directory contains three files
.CUE .JPG . WAV/FLAC/APE
The advantage of this is that if there is an error in the song title, the cue file can be edited.
If the track contains non English characters, save it in UTF-8 encoding.
 

Re: Any plan to support multi-track files?

Reply #10 –
Whilst this approach is clearly even worse than the single FLAC+CUE file, it's interesting how the tags are stored.

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  type: 4 (VORBIS_COMMENT)
  is last: false
  length: 1804
  vendor string: reference libFLAC 1.4.3 20230623
  comments: 35
    comment[0]: ALBUM=The Lockdown Sessions
    comment[1]: ALBUMARTIST=Elton John
    comment[2]: ALBUMARTISTSORT=John, Elton
    comment[3]: ALLMUSIC_ALBUMARTISTID=mn0000796734
    comment[4]: ALLMUSIC_RELEASEGROUPID=mw0003583756
    comment[5]: cue_track01_ARTIST=Elton John
    comment[6]: cue_track01_ARTIST=Dua Lipa
    comment[7]: cue_track01_ARTISTSORT=John, Elton
    comment[8]: cue_track01_ARTISTSORT=Dua Lipa
    comment[9]: cue_track01_SUBTITLE=PNAU Remix
    comment[10]: cue_track02_ARTIST=Elton John
    comment[11]: cue_track02_ARTIST=Young Thug
    comment[12]: cue_track02_ARTIST=Nicki Minaj
    comment[13]: cue_track02_ARTISTSORT=John, Elton
    comment[14]: cue_track02_ARTISTSORT=Young Thug
    comment[15]: cue_track02_ARTISTSORT=Nicki Minaj
    comment[16]: cue_track03_ARTIST=Surfaces
    comment[17]: cue_track03_ARTIST=Elton John
    comment[18]: cue_track03_ARTISTSORT=Surfaces
    comment[19]: cue_track03_ARTISTSORT=John, Elton
    comment[20]: cuesheet=REM GENRE Pop
REM DATE 2021
PERFORMER "Elton John"
TITLE "The Lockdown Sessions"
REM REPLAYGAIN_ALBUM_GAIN -10.39 dB
REM REPLAYGAIN_ALBUM_PEAK 1.131375
FILE "CDImage.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 01 AUDIO
    TITLE "Cold Heart"
    PERFORMER "Elton John, Dua Lipa"
    REM REPLAYGAIN_TRACK_GAIN -9.74 dB
    REM REPLAYGAIN_TRACK_PEAK 1.055462
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    TITLE "Always Love You"
    PERFORMER "Elton John, Young Thug, Nicki Minaj"
    REM REPLAYGAIN_TRACK_GAIN -10.66 dB
    REM REPLAYGAIN_TRACK_PEAK 1.025640
    INDEX 01 03:39:21
  TRACK 03 AUDIO
    TITLE "Learn To Fly"
    PERFORMER "Surfaces, Elton John"
    REM REPLAYGAIN_TRACK_GAIN -9.00 dB
    REM REPLAYGAIN_TRACK_PEAK 1.077444
    INDEX 01 07:56:39

    comment[21]: date=2021
    comment[22]: DATEADDED=2022-10-27
    comment[23]: DISCNUMBER=01
    comment[24]: genre=Pop
    comment[25]: LABEL=EMI
    comment[26]: ORIGINALDATE=2021
    comment[27]: DISCTOTAL=01