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[News] AMD released Opteron......

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It looks that Opteron has done well when running on Linux with MySQL    (although Microsoft SQL 2000 seems not to like Opteron......)
Currently Windows 2000 doesn't support Opteron's NUMA(Non-Uniformed Memory Architecture), therefore the memory performance on Windows 2000 is not very acceptable. I guess when Windows Server 2003 come out(which introduce NUMA support), Opteron will have a considerable performance gain......

[News] AMD released Opteron......

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so this still isn't hammer?  the consumer 64bit proc?  amd needs to get their shit together in a hurry; athlon was great for its time but its quickly getting left in the dust by faster p4s.  and the whole 'performance index' is confusing and misleading to say the least.  most people I talk to with amds don't even realize that their amd 1800+ isn't 1800 mhz.

[News] AMD released Opteron......

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so this still isn't hammer?  the consumer 64bit proc?  amd needs to get their shit together in a hurry; athlon was great for its time but its quickly getting left in the dust by faster p4s.  and the whole 'performance index' is confusing and misleading to say the least.  most people I talk to with amds don't even realize that their amd 1800+ isn't 1800 mhz.

But it preforms way better than sucky P4 1800, so PR rating is maybe a bit too fair.

[News] AMD released Opteron......

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so this still isn't hammer?  the consumer 64bit proc?

It is one of the Hammers, and it is a relatively inexpensive 64-bit processor.

Opteron == SledgeHammer
Athlon 64 (to be released later this year) == ClawHammer

Opteron is targeted more at the server room; Athlon 64 will be targeted at desktops. Nothing stops you from using an Opteron at home, of course. (Same as nothing is stopping you from using a Pentium Xeon at home, if you really wanted to)

[News] AMD released Opteron......

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so this still isn't hammer?  the consumer 64bit proc?

The Opteron is one of the hammers.  It was codenamed Sledgehammer.  The "consumer" 64-bit CPU, the Athlon 64, is codenamed Clawhammer.

Edit: Doh!  Got beat to the punch.   

@Pater Harris: "Relatively"?  Did you see their pricing on the 240?  Wow.

The Athlon 64 is targeted for Sept, if memory serves.  All AMD's Processor Roadmap says is 2H03.

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amd needs to get their shit together in a hurry; athlon was great for its time but its quickly getting left in the dust by faster p4s.

The Athlon is still a great CPU.  The Opteron is simply the first step in "AMD getting their shit together", since it's what they've been spending the most effort on recently.

By itself, the Opteron is pretty impressive, but it's SMP scaling is REALLY impressive.  I think that in 4-way and 8-way configurations it's really going to make a splash.

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and the whole 'performance index' is confusing and misleading to say the least.  most people I talk to with amds don't even realize that their amd 1800+ isn't 1800 mhz.

So?  MHz is only a very relative indicator.  It can tell us that a P4 2.8 GHz CPU is definitely faster than a P4 2.4 GHz CPU, but it doesn't tell us how it performs in relation to an Opteron, a Sparc, a Power4, or even a Pentium 3 CPU.  It's all about how well it runs the applications you need it to.

That said, I'm glad to see that AMD is moving away from the "performance index" myself.  Hopefully they don't bring it back with the Athlon 64.  They'll have the "64-bit on the desktop" drum to beat pretty hard for a while, so hopefully they won't call it the "Athlon 64 3500+" or something.

Either way there are some exciting times ahead.  If AMD can ramp up the frequency on the Athlon 64 CPUs, we'll be seeing the Barton relegated to "value" CPU status by year's end.