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CDex settings for mpc-ripping

Hi,
Does anyone know how to reduce the quality of mpc ripping with CDex. Because the only option CDex gives is:
--verbose %1 %2
The current settings "pop out" a mpc file with about 170kbps VBR.
How can I change this settings?

gofurygo
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CDex settings for mpc-ripping

Reply #1 –
--verbose --standard --xlevel %1 %2

I believe you've been using the standard setting all along anyway by not specifying what you want.  You get the idea, you can also use the quality settings.

I used to use CDex, however I have switched to EAC because I could not figure out how to get APE2 tags to work in CDex.  Refer here for more information:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/index.p...........d3ab454b232c1

I prefer using the standard setting because pretty much everything is transparent to me with that setting, and files come out nice and small.

Quick question for anyone who wants to answer...  Is mppenc 1.14 still the reccommended encoder version? or is one of the 1.15 betas better.  I am only asking in terms of sound quality, not encoding on the fly ect....

CDex settings for mpc-ripping

Reply #2 –
Thanx for your quick reply.
Where did you get this setting from? Your link shows only EAC settings for mpc ripping?!

gofurygo
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CDex settings for mpc-ripping

Reply #3 –
Hi again,
I decided to install EAC just to give it a shot.
But I already have a problem... 
I'm trying to rip cd--> mpc once again. But EAC keeps poppin' out wave files instead of mpc.
I used this user guide: http://www.saunalahti.fi/~cse/EAC/ to set it up, but without success.
What did I do wrong? Or is it normal that it only extracts waves? If yes, I could do it without the mpc encoder as well, couldn't I?

thanx for you help


gofurygo
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CDex settings for mpc-ripping

Reply #4 –
I use this in CDex:

--xtreme --xlevel --verbose --overwrite --artist "%a" --album "%b" --title "%t" --track "%tn" --year "%y" --genre "%g" %1 %2

CDex settings for mpc-ripping

Reply #5 –
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I'm trying to rip cd--> mpc once again. But EAC keeps poppin' out wave files instead of mpc.
I used this user guide: http://www.saunalahti.fi/~cse/EAC/ to set it up, but without success.
What did I do wrong?
gofurygo

Check the following:

* EAC is the latest version - 0.9b4. Edit: Ah, yeah, and check that mppenc.exe is version 1.14 !

* EAC - Options - Tools: On extraction start external compressor...

* double-check that there is %s at the end of your command line in the compression options

* use the big "MP3"-button or the menu command "Action - Copy selected tracks - Compressed"

CDex settings for mpc-ripping

Reply #6 –
Hey, that was it   

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* EAC - Options - Tools: On extraction start external compressor...


I forgot to check his option.

Thanx


gofurygo
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CDex settings for mpc-ripping

Reply #7 –
Yep, it'S me one more time...
I'm still wondering, why I can't find some kind of setting list for encoding with CDex?
It's alot easier to find something about EAC... yeah,yeah, I know it's alot better... 

But I'd still be happy if you guys would post some CDex settings..

Thanx in advance... 

gofurygo
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CDex settings for mpc-ripping

Reply #8 –
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But I'd still be happy if you guys would post some CDex settings..

Thanx in advance... 

gofurygo

What are you talking about?  What Settings?  The Encoder settings are the same for CDex and EAC because your still using mppenc.exe... Could you be more specific about your question?

CDex settings for mpc-ripping

Reply #9 –
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I use this in CDex:

--xtreme --xlevel --verbose --overwrite --artist "%a" --album "%b" --title "%t" --track "%tn" --year "%y" --genre "%g" %1 %2

I tested this setting
Genre is missing from the Tag
Year is also missing

And personally I think --Standard is better..

I'm still going with the idea that EAC is better for reporting problems with rips, and APE2 tagging works well..

CDex settings for mpc-ripping

Reply #10 –
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What are you talking about? What Settings? The Encoder settings are the same for CDex and EAC because your still using mppenc.exe... Could you be more specific about your question?

I'm sorry, I ripped my whole cd-collection long time ago, so I'm not really familiar with the command lines in eac and cdex.  But, yes you're right. I should have recognized that these two of course use the same settings because of the same encoder...

gofurygo
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CDex settings for mpc-ripping

Reply #11 –
[Id3 tags - disabled]

[External Musepack Encoder]

Using mppenc.exe (version1.14)

On the fly must be disabled as std input is bust.

Hide MS-DOS window is enabled.

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--verbose --xtreme --xlevel --tag Track=%tn --tag Album="%b" --tag Artist="%a" --tag Title="%t" --tag Year="%y" --tag Genre="%g" --scale 0.9 --stderr mpc.log "%1" "%2"


This will:
Encode @ q6 xlevel.
Scales @0.9 to reduce clipping...
Adds these ape tags track, album, artist, title, year, genre
Its practically silent as all mppenc info is written to 'mpc.log' - for me to review at the end.

CDex settings for mpc-ripping

Reply #12 –
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Scales @0.9 to reduce clipping.

Ummm... how about ReplayGain instead? Scaling is - pardon - a quite "dumb" method, as it doesn't analyze the audio data at all.

CDex settings for mpc-ripping

Reply #13 –
Well thanks, that comment certainly comes across as a bit patronising.
I do realise that scaling is 'dumb' as you put it, and to to be honest I only scaled due to mppenc crying about clipping errors during my current encode.

I'm still experimenting with mpc and this is my current CDex string.When I get some time I'll mess about with ReplayGain too I guess.

Rather than abuse my post you should enlighten us with your settings so we can learn the correct way to do things.

CDex settings for mpc-ripping

Reply #14 –
Haha. Well, just lose the --scale 0.9, then you'll have a mighty fine setting.

If you strive to know my EAC line, it's
Code: [Select]
--quality 6 --xlevel --verbose --ape2 --artist "%a" --title "%t" --album "%g" --year "%y" --track "%n" --comment "EAC 0.9b4, MPC v1.14" %s

CDex settings for mpc-ripping

Reply #15 –
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[Id3 tags - disabled]

[External Musepack Encoder]

Using mppenc.exe (version1.14)

On the fly must be disabled as std input is bust.

Hide MS-DOS window is enabled.

[string]

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--verbose --xtreme --xlevel --tag Track=%tn --tag Album="%b" --tag Artist="%a" --tag Title="%t" --tag Year="%y" --tag Genre="%g" --scale 0.9 --stderr mpc.log "%1" "%2"


This will:
Encode @ q7 xlevel.
Scales @0.9 to reduce clipping.
Adds these ape tags track, album, artist, title, year, genre
Its practically silent as all mppenc info is written to 'mpc.log' - for me to review at the end.

Sweet, everything seems to work good now for me.. minus the scale setting...
Also you claim the "--extreme" switch will give you a q7 setting.. it's q6 in reality
High Quality +
Previously "--xtreme". Provides some extra headroom over --quality 5.
--quality 6
(Bitrate ~200 kbit/s, typical 168 ... 212)

I doubt most people hear anything wrong with q5 anyway, people just like the warm fuzzy feeling.. so feel free to waste HD space.. (my apologies to those who actually do hear the difference, no insult intended..)

And --scale 0.9... I don't know about that..

CDex settings for mpc-ripping

Reply #16 –
Yeah, it is q6 - sorry minor typo.
I need the extra headroom for when I need to transcode to my mp3 player.

[span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%']Geez, people are really quick to jump on you in here.[/span]

CDex settings for mpc-ripping

Reply #17 –
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Yeah, it is q6 - sorry minor typo.
I need the extra headroom for when I need to transcode to my mp3 player.

[span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%']Geez, people are really quick to jump on you in here.[/span]

To start things off.. I just read This and EAC is clearly shown to be much better than CDex.

Lol... sorry about the ranting yashiro..

I don't see how q6 helps with transcoding more than q5.  Will problem samples become more bad when they are transcoded?  Even if you start with an MPC at q10, there is going to be pre-echo all over the place once it is transcoded to MP3.  I could be totally wrong about this.  I know many people seem to prefer using q6 & q7 for transcoding.  Again I suspect this in the warm fuzzy feeling in effect.  I'd like to read about more tests on transcoding(MPC -> MP3), but I doubt many people with sensitive ears would bother since they probably think transcoding is a no no.

CDex settings for mpc-ripping

Reply #18 –
Take this EAC
 

Well, no chance on this one... but..


seriously, I had CDex for quite a while, but you guys kinda convinced me to use EAC and it really is more userfriendly... 


gofurygo
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