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How can i Encode with XiNG Encoder in CDex or EAC?

i wanna encode with XiNG to do run some tests.
i have some albums with that encoded with XiNG and i didnt know if from the first place.
i have wonderd how this album got encoded with. (and then i put it in Mr.QuestionMan and find that its XiNG).
so if XiNG good to my ears i wanna try it myself 

can anybody help me with this? tnx from advance   

p.s. - how can i find it? didnt find it for download or something. tnx

How can i Encode with XiNG Encoder in CDex or EAC?

Reply #1 –
Xing isn't being developed anymore. And if you want to use it, I think you'll have to pay for the old one.
And maybe you don't know which Xing Version was used for the albums, so doing an available test would be difficult.

When you haven't encoded the albums on your own, then don't trust MRQuestionman's informations. It can display Xing, but in reality it can also be a helix / gogo / fhg / etc. one.

Xing won't be good for your ears. Too old!

Try Helix (download at rarewares.org). It's an "advanced" Xing codec, OPEN SOURCE. With Helix you can also see the advantages of a xing codec (very fast), and it has better quality than old xing. If you want to get best quality stick with lame.

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i have some albums with that encoded with XiNG and i didnt know if from the first place.
i have wonderd how this album got encoded with. (and then i put it in Mr.QuestionMan and find that its XiNG).


Dude, where are your mp3s from? Smells like piracy....
FB2K,APE&LAME

How can i Encode with XiNG Encoder in CDex or EAC?

Reply #2 –
Quote from: memomai on
Xing isn't being developed anymore. And if you want to use it, I think you'll have to pay for the old one.
And maybe you don't know which Xing Version was used for the albums, so doing an available test would be difficult.

When you haven't encoded the albums on your own, then don't trust MRQuestionman's informations. It can display Xing, but in reality it can also be a helix / gogo / fhg / etc. one.

Xing won't be good for your ears. Too old!

Try Helix (download at rarewares.org). It's an "advanced" Xing codec, OPEN SOURCE. With Helix you can also see the advantages of a xing codec (very fast), and it has better quality than old xing. If you want to get best quality stick with lame.

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i have some albums with that encoded with XiNG and i didnt know if from the first place.
i have wonderd how this album got encoded with. (and then i put it in Mr.QuestionMan and find that its XiNG).


Dude, where are your mp3s from? Smells like piracy....


TNX!

okay aobut the albums :] i have just 2 that endoded with XiNG.
most of the time i use LAME. but in the last time i have try OGG and i like it!
im feeling the difference. i think its more dynamic then LAME.
at least for my ears.

1 - so u say MRQuestionman isnt real?
2 - how to encode with HELiX. whats are the command line options? like lame?
3- is there any post that guide me to encode with HELiX like LAME in here or somthiong?
example: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=28124 and this http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=18091

How can i Encode with XiNG Encoder in CDex or EAC?

Reply #3 –
Quote from: Auralix on
im feeling the difference. i think its more dynamic then LAME.
This statement constitutes a TOS#8 violation. Please read the Terms Of Service rules of this forum before posting this kind of statement again.

What settings for both encoders? What versions of both encoders? "Feeling" a difference means nothing. Can you actually hear a difference? ABX test results please.

Cheers, Slipstreem. 

How can i Encode with XiNG Encoder in CDex or EAC?

Reply #4 –
Quote from: Slipstreem on
Quote from: Auralix on
im feeling the difference. i think its more dynamic then LAME.
This statement constitutes a TOS#8 violation. Please read the Terms Of Service rules of this forum before posting this kind of statement again.

What settings for both encoders? What versions of both encoders? "Feeling" a difference means nothing. Can you actually hear a difference? ABX test results please.

Cheers, Slipstreem. 


i really can say that i hear a difference in the bass section. (im encoding Psytrance - -Psychadelic Trance).

for lame its 3.98.2 -V 0 alt preset extreme.
and for ogg (aoTuv b4b) #8 in the scale (256Kbps)

and u want that i do an abx test? how to do that?

How can i Encode with XiNG Encoder in CDex or EAC?

Reply #5 –
You can find an explanation of what an ABX test is HERE. You can install Foobar2000 to carry out the tests. You will need to tick the checkbox for the ABX Comparator during the install process. Further instructions on how to perform the test will follow, but probably not from me. It's 4:30 in the morning here in the UK and I have to sleep some time.

It's only compulsory to carry out the test if you insist on making statements regarding relative quality with no actual evidence that such a difference exists in practice. Sorry if this seems harsh, but HA prides itself on presenting certifiable facts, not possible fiction as fact.

Cheers, Slipstreem. 

How can i Encode with XiNG Encoder in CDex or EAC?

Reply #6 –
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1 - so u say MRQuestionman isnt real?


Sure it's real.
But no analyzing program is a magician. I mean, when you've got mp3s or other files you don't know where they're from, you can't be sure if these files are manipulated or something like this.

There are also encoders which are unknown for analyzing programs, so they give you wrong statements (for example EncSpot: it shows me my Helix encoded MP3s as Xing MP3s, and MrQuestionman does similar work).

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2 - how to encode with HELiX. whats are the command line options? like lame?


just look up the help info in the hmp3.exe of the helix encoder, there are the presets shown.


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im feeling the difference. i think its more dynamic then LAME.
at least for my ears.


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for lame its 3.98.2 -V 0 alt preset extreme.
and for ogg (aoTuv b4b) #8 in the scale (256Kbps)

Welcome to the world of PLACEBOOOOooooo, dude.
FB2K,APE&LAME

How can i Encode with XiNG Encoder in CDex or EAC?

Reply #7 –
IIRC lame use to write Xing header also. Not sure if it still does. This could cause confusion for your analysis program.
Glass half full!