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Stream Ripper sound quality

Is there any way to improve the sound quality on Stream Ripper? It doesn't have anything to do with the sound card when it rips, right? When compareing the source stream sound quality to the ripped stream sound quality, the ripped stream quality doesn't sound nearly as good as the original/source stream(and they are the same bitrate). I usually run two stream applications at the same time to get to two different streams at the same time. Doing so, it leaves the system resources at 57% percent, that wouldn't degrade the sound quality, would it? Any suggestions?

                                                     

                                                            -Darin

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Stream Ripper sound quality

Reply #1
When converting from one lossy format to another, or transcoding within the same format, you will always lose sound quality, even if your output is the same bitrate as the original or higher.

Stream Ripper sound quality

Reply #2
Actually, which streamripper program are you referring? This one? http://streamripper.sourceforge.net/

That one seems that saves the stream directly so it shouldn't affect the quality. (Haven't used it)

Stream Ripper sound quality

Reply #3
I'm using the lastest version(I believe anyways) of Stream Ripper32(V 2.6). Hey, even though it would be ALOT more work, would I get a better sounding file if I used EAC to record the stream and then used Lame to compress it(at the same bitrate)?

                                                                        -Darin

:alien:
Cowon Iaudio X5 30 gig. It rocks!

Stream Ripper sound quality

Reply #4
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I'm using the lastest version(I believe anyways) of Stream Ripper32(V 2.6). Hey, even though it would be ALOT more work, would I get a better sounding file if I used EAC to record the stream and then used Lame to compress it(at the same bitrate)?

                                                                        -Darin

:alien:

Worse actually. You'd be transcoding 

Stream Ripper sound quality

Reply #5
I have come to the conclusion that there is some signal processing being done to the streams by the native program that does not happen when simply "hack downloading" the streams with a separate program.  This is my experience:  There was a RealMedia .ram stream (yes, I know that that is just the linker file) that I tried to download with a stream downloading program the other day.  The video on the streamed one was 100 times better streaming through Realplayer than the one I downloaded with the separate stream downloader program.  I think Realplayer does some sort of optimization of the video (and possibly audio) only when they are streamed.  Could be something to do with that "Intel Optimizer" thing, or it could be soemthing else, but there was a significant difference.
WARNING:  Changing of advanced parameters might degrade sound quality.  Modify them only if you are expirienced in audio compression!

Stream Ripper sound quality

Reply #6
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,Feb 9 2003 - 08:24 PM]Actually, which streamripper program are you referring? This one? http://streamripper.sourceforge.net/

That one seems that saves the stream directly so it shouldn't affect the quality. (Haven't used it)

Nice program, especially the winamp plugin version.
I hope the future version will also support OGG Vorbis stream.

Stream Ripper sound quality

Reply #7
I think that the quality of the streaming change depending on the speed of your connection.

With StreamBox (a program similar to Streamripper) there is an option for change the recognized connection bandwidth: with "T1 LAN" the filesize of the downloaded video is about 9MB, with "56K" the filesize is 3MB, even if the link used for the download is the same!

Also in RealPlayer and Windows Media Player you can change the option of the bandwidth, changing the quality of the streaming.

So if you watch the video with the player (with the option T1 or Cable activated) you'll get better quality than downloading the same video using Streamripper with 56K option (56K is normally defaulted in StreamBox, I don't know about Streamripper).
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Stream Ripper sound quality

Reply #8
I use a cable modem. Does the Wave Out or Wave Table adjustements in the Windows task bar have any affect on the sound quality for Stream Ripper when it's ripping?

                                     
                                                                      -Darin


:alien:
Cowon Iaudio X5 30 gig. It rocks!

Stream Ripper sound quality

Reply #9
I don't think it affects the quality.
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Stream Ripper sound quality

Reply #10
Does anyone else know if the Wave Out or Wave Table adjustements in the Windows task bar have any affect on the sound quality for Stream Ripper when it's ripping? I posted a message on the stream ripper forum but that place is so vacant it has cob webs.

                                                                   


                                                                    :alien:
Cowon Iaudio X5 30 gig. It rocks!

Stream Ripper sound quality

Reply #11
The quality of audio can't be affected, because the sound is digitally processed: StreamBox don't play the audio from the streamed video and then record it, this program simply transfer the stream (audio and video) from the url to the hard disk. 
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