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DIYer Spends $1 Million on Audio

Reply #1 –
For that price his setup looks surprisingly tacky, like he bought all that stuff for $5000 on a contraband market somewhere in China.

DIYer Spends $1 Million on Audio

Reply #2 –
Quote from: rick.hughes on
DIYer Spends $1 Million on Audio


A: A million on audio? And when you think of all the suffering in the world, the people dying in Myanmar and China -- when you think of all the GOOD he could do with just half of that money... the cancer research...

B: Hey what are you complaining about, it's his money, he can do whatever he wants with it. You want to donate, go donate.

A: What a waste... and on "show off" gear that he probably has no real ability to appreciate.

B: Who says he doesn't appreciate it? Of course he appreciates it. Damn, *I'd* sure appreciate it...

A: I mean how good are his golden ears anyway? Can he really tell the difference between his gear and an "ordinary" super-high-end system?

B: Who cares? And who are you to judge anyway?

A: I'll bet he couldn't pass a double-blind ABX of his gear versus a setup costing a tenth of that...

B: So what? That doesn't prove a thing. It's his money and his time and he can do whatever he wants with them for as long as he has them.

A: I think he's just showing off to make the rest of us feel inferior.

B: Well he's doing a good job of it in your case, I'd say.

DIYer Spends $1 Million on Audio

Reply #3 –
Someone CAN/IS ALLOWED to do something != It is REASONABLE to do it

Therefore:

It is UNREASONABLE to do something != Someone CANNOT/IS NOT ALLOWED to do something
I am arrogant and I can afford it because I deliver.

DIYer Spends $1 Million on Audio

Reply #4 –
Quote from: Lyx on
It is UNREASONABLE to do something != Someone CANNOT/IS NOT ALLOWED to do something

Reasonable means fair, sensible, appropriate
Cannot means unable
Allowed means permitted

What is reasonable is a subjective judgement.
What people are able to do is dependent on ability and means.
What is permitted is dependent on rules, regulations and laws.

These words (reasonable, can, allow) are poor bedfellows for an orgy of logic. 

C.
PC = TAK + LossyWAV  ::  Portable = Opus (130)

DIYer Spends $1 Million on Audio

Reply #6 –
I hope he has enough money left to pay the power bill 
Who are you and how did you get in here ?
I'm a locksmith, I'm a locksmith.

DIYer Spends $1 Million on Audio

Reply #7 –
Quote from: carpman on
What is reasonable is a subjective judgement.

From a philosphical POV, nope - its actually pure logic which is neither "subjective" nor "objective" (written in quotes because the idea of "subjective" and "objective" are about something which doesn't exist (a myth)). But following this further would lead into a discussion, which has nothing to do with this topic, nor audio.... and which probably cannot be efficiently discussed on an open generic forum (because it requires too much background-knowledge).

Anyways, what i was trying to show was simply that just because someone CAN do it, it doesn't automatically make it reasonable/sensible - on the other hand, pointing out that some behaviour of another person is stupid, doesn't mean, that he is not allowed to do it. I.e. what that guy in the article did was highly inefficient and therefore unreasonable..... but that doesn't change that he can and may do it (it's his choice to do something stupid).
I am arrogant and I can afford it because I deliver.
 

DIYer Spends $1 Million on Audio

Reply #8 –
Everything is relative. What does "one million dollars" mean to people who are involved in $130 billlion buyouts because they need somewhere to put the cash?

DIYer Spends $1 Million on Audio

Reply #9 –
It probably sounds wonderful, but I'd have dedicated at least $50K of that amount to aesthetics.   

Quote from: A_Man_Eating_Duck on
I hope he has enough money left to pay the power bill 

If he spent $1.1M on his audio system, his net worth is probably more than $1.102M.    Many people are quite willing to spend at least 2-3% of their annual income, or at least 0.5% of their net worth, on their home stereo.  If his net worth is more than $50M, for instance, why should he be any different?

Over one million dollars is an extraordinary amount for an audio system of any kind, but buying decisions are often relative and proportional to available financial resources.

DIYer Spends $1 Million on Audio

Reply #10 –
Quote from: S-12 on
It probably sounds wonderful, but I'd have dedicated at least $50K of that amount to aesthetics.  :sick:

You're forgetting that "aesthetics" is just an umbrella term for many different criteria - rating it according to the current "metal and glas spaceship"-trend is just one of the possible criteria (i guess thats called "taste"). I for example highly dislike the current "pimp-spaceship" trend, and prefer a look like he did choose (so, according to my criteria, i dont really criticize the quality of his setup - neither in soundquality nor in aesthetics..... i just think that something very similiar could have been done at a fraction of the costs).
I am arrogant and I can afford it because I deliver.

DIYer Spends $1 Million on Audio

Reply #11 –
Quote from: S-12 on
Over one million dollars is an extraordinary amount for an audio system of any kind, but buying decisions are often relative and proportional to available financial resources.
And so is the stupidity/vanity of such decissions.

DIYer Spends $1 Million on Audio

Reply #12 –
That's the equivalent of that guy saying it's stupid and lazy to not be able to buy the level of components that he has.  (Or, in line with that, saying "Get a better job!")  Always think about such things going in both directions. 

DIYer Spends $1 Million on Audio

Reply #13 –
I don't quite understand the need for several of the same CD player - it's not as if these products are suited to DJ mixing!

Oh, hang on - silly me - the whole point is buying things that you don't need - we all do that. Sad thing is for me, this doesn't go beyond buying a chocolate bar!

Cheers,
David.

DIYer Spends $1 Million on Audio

Reply #14 –
  Yeah, I'd have diverted a decent chunk of the budget towards integration - not so much between parts, but of the entire system into the wall(s).  That shelf system just isn't much my taste.

And I'm pretty sure he could have cut the expenditure at least in half and ended up with exactly the same quality of sound.

DIYer Spends $1 Million on Audio

Reply #15 –
This guy is just doing with audio gear what some women do with clothes or shoes. It has nothing to do with audio - it's a psychological problem.

DIYer Spends $1 Million on Audio

Reply #16 –
Quote from: S-12 on
That's the equivalent of that guy saying it's stupid and lazy to not be able to buy the level of components that he has.  (Or, in line with that, saying "Get a better job!")  Always think about such things going in both directions. 
The difference is that one direction is possibly backed by several billion people while the other one by several individuals.

DIYer Spends $1 Million on Audio

Reply #17 –
Quote from: S-12 on
That's the equivalent of that guy saying it's stupid and lazy to not be able to buy the level of components that he has.  (Or, in line with that, saying "Get a better job!")  Always think about such things going in both directions.  ;)

The "level of his components" qualitywise, is quite certainly below 200.000. Where did the remaining 800.000 go? What some people here call stupid, is called "capital destruction". And capital destruction is a special case of "resource destruction". If the equipment which he bought, qualitywise were actually worth 1m, then this would be an entirely different matter..... one could probably then call him "obsessed with audio".... but thats still significantly more reasonable, than simply burning 800.000 for the sake of "getting rid of that money someway". He did not invest that much into this room because of quality, but primarily because of "prestige".
I am arrogant and I can afford it because I deliver.

DIYer Spends $1 Million on Audio

Reply #18 –
Quote from: Martel on
The difference is that one direction is possibly backed by several billion people while the other one by several individuals.

...whose combined net worth vastly exceeds that of us billions of people.  As such, their need to care about us is far lower than our need to care about them.  After all, that guy didn't read a news story about MY last audio purchase, did he? 

"Darling, did you read this article?  Christopher spent $150 on Amazon.com.  That percentage of his income for that equipment - what an idiot!"

DIYer Spends $1 Million on Audio

Reply #19 –
Quote from: S-12 on
Quote from: Martel on

The difference is that one direction is possibly backed by several billion people while the other one by several individuals.

...whose combined net worth vastly exceeds that of us billions of people.  As such, their need to care about us is far lower than our need to care about them.  After all, that guy didn't read a news story about MY last audio purchase, did he? 

"Darling, did you read this article?  Christopher spent $150 on Amazon.com.  That percentage of his income for that equipment - what an idiot!"
Yes, indeed. Of course, there are much worse (from an environmental, social or whatever perspective) to spend a million on. Pick up a copy of a supermarket tabloid and marvel at the people spending millions on party favours for wedding guests. At least this guy ended up with something cool he can show off to his friends, and will probably enjoy by himself for a long time. Or he is crazy. Who knows?

DIYer Spends $1 Million on Audio

Reply #20 –
Very good points. 

DIYer Spends $1 Million on Audio

Reply #21 –
Quote from: Lyx on
Quote from: S-12 on
That's the equivalent of that guy saying it's stupid and lazy to not be able to buy the level of components that he has.  (Or, in line with that, saying "Get a better job!")  Always think about such things going in both directions. 
The "level of his components" qualitywise, is quite certainly below 200.000. Where did the remaining 800.000 go? What some people here call stupid, is called "capital destruction". And capital destruction is a special case of "resource destruction". If the equipment which he bought, qualitywise were actually worth 1m, then this would be an entirely different matter..... one could probably then call him "obsessed with audio".... but thats still significantly more reasonable, than simply burning 800.000 for the sake of "getting rid of that money someway". He did not invest that much into this room because of quality, but primarily because of "prestige".
The capital haven't disappeared. It ended up in the pockets of more intelligent people.
EDIT: reasonable is probably more appropriate