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Audio CD Ripping software advice

I have some bad CD's that have gotten damaged from extensive use. The cd's now have some pops ect in it. I want to rip these audio cd's and burn them to new cd's. is there a software that can rip/recover these tracks to mp3 so that I can than burn them with all the track data?

I have tried some regular cd recovery software but it will only recover them as wav files, which means I than lose all the track data and will end up with a burned cd that has file names track 01, track 02, ect.

What software do you recommend?

Audio CD Ripping software advice

Reply #1 –
Exact Audio Copy is the program you're looking for.  If you need help setting it up you can check out my guide here.

Audio CD Ripping software advice

Reply #2 –
Quote from: Teqnilogik on
Exact Audio Copy is the program you're looking for.  If you need help setting it up you can check out my guide here.

In addition to that excellent guide, I'd also recommend using the accuraterip functionality.  Having just recently begun to be able to use it with Christopher Keys' script, I think it's great.  Of course, with badly damaged CDs, you can't get too hung up on it.  If you can get an EAC rip that sounds fine, even if it doesn't match the accuraterip database, that's pretty darn good.

Audio CD Ripping software advice

Reply #3 –
Most (store bought) audio CDs don't have track data on them. The track data comes from various online sources (CDDB, FREEDB, etc).

Audio CD Ripping software advice

Reply #4 –
try ImTOO Audio Maker, which has three functions: convert, rip and burn. In rip module, CDDB button lets u get track data of CD from FreeDB, then rip this CD to mp3 or other audio formats. Finally, u can use burn module to burn these mp3 files to a brand-new audio CD.

Audio CD Ripping software advice

Reply #5 –
Exact Audio Copy is shareware or freeware? i know imtoo is a shareware, but it's said to be very good. i'll check this two programs

Audio CD Ripping software advice

Reply #6 –
EAC is Cardware! Isn't it?
~> Sorry!! I'm from Austria <~

Audio CD Ripping software advice

Reply #7 –
You should also clean the discs, and polish out the scratches on the under side. Do not touch scratches on the label side - polishing these will remove audio data!

Cheers,
David.

Audio CD Ripping software advice

Reply #8 –
Quote from: amulewong on
is there a software that can rip/recover these tracks to mp3 so that I can than burn them with all the track data?

I have tried some regular cd recovery software but it will only recover them as wav files, which means I than lose all the track data and will end up with a burned cd that has file names track 01, track 02, ect.


If your aim is to restore your damaged CDs to their original condition (or as near as possible), why would you want to extract the tracks to MP3?  This is a lossy format; that is to say that the encoder throws away information which it (or, more precisely, its programmer) hopes you won't miss.  That information is lost forever.  Moreover, from what I've read elsewhere on this forum, any future lossy encoding from your new CD will be even worse.

To preserve as much of your original CD as possible you should rip to WAV files or, better still, a WAV image of the whole disk.  EAC can do both.  In theory the single image has the advantage of also preserving the correct gaps between tracks but you still have to pin down the indices that tell a CD player where those gaps are.  I'm not yet convinced of EAC's ability to do this accurately but I'm working on it.  If a CD is very badly scratched you might have to do some polishing (on the playing side only, NEVER on the label side) before EAC can get an accurate rip.  I've used EAC and polish to make good copies from discs that had been used, literally, as frisbees and were so bad that an audio CD player couldn't handle them.

So what if you do lose the track names?  If your CD writer supports CD text you can put them back in - and if it doesn't you can write them down.  In any case it's better by far to lose the track names than to throw away irreplacable audio.

Audio CD Ripping software advice

Reply #9 –
To be able to correct many scratches and read exactly, I've gotten sometimes good results from (the motorized version of) Skip Doctor, at least better than other things I've tried, but you can read the FAQ for other methods.
http://www.digitalinnovations.com/

I'd also recommend dbPowerAmp as much easier to use at ripping than EAC, also able to do format conversions easily, and slightly better at finding & correcting errors, but both are good. In both cases you can get track data from online services.

http://www.dbpoweramp.com/
 

Audio CD Ripping software advice

Reply #10 –
Quote from: TechVsLife on
I'd also recommend dbPowerAmp as much easier to use at ripping than EAC, also able to do format conversions easily, and slightly better at finding & correcting errors, but both are good.


dBpowerAMP has a better correction technique than EAC?

Truth be told, I never found EAC any good for ripping very scratched CD's, especially in Secure mode. It is just too picky and it won't let the extraction progress even on the unnoticeable ticks where other rippers like CDex Standard/Paranoia would pass up without affecting the rip quality.

Audio CD Ripping software advice

Reply #11 –
People seem to always make the same mistake - EAC has no correction technique at all, it's the drive that corrects. EAC simply tells the unit to reread many times until it has 8 or 16 or whatever (don't remember) identical results.

Audio CD Ripping software advice

Reply #12 –
Quote from: Sebastian Mares on
People seem to always make the same mistake - EAC has no correction technique at all, it's the drive that corrects. EAC simply tells the unit to reread many times until it has 8 or 16 or whatever (don't remember) identical results.


So that also would mean no rippers have any error correction technique.

It's more than logical since it is the drive which is reading the CD and not the software itself, hehe.

Audio CD Ripping software advice

Reply #13 –
No mistake, but a difference in how we're using some terms.  Software can have a technique in how it gets around certain CD hardware (or CD "software" aka firmware) "features" that effectively mask errors, as well as how it makes use of available features (such as C2 or cache flushing). Both EAC and dbpoweramp have techniques, but I believe dbpoweramp is slightly better, and substantially easier to use.  (obviously it doesn't have any separate access to the data; the technique is in scrubbing, better discovery of errors, validation via AccurateRip, or validation via multiple comparisons--techniques superior than those the drive would use on its own).

http://www.dbpoweramp.com/secure-ripper.htm







Quote from: alex_wheels on
Quote from: Sebastian Mares on
People seem to always make the same mistake - EAC has no correction technique at all, it's the drive that corrects. EAC simply tells the unit to reread many times until it has 8 or 16 or whatever (don't remember) identical results.


So that also would mean no rippers have any error correction technique.

It's more than logical since it is the drive which is reading the CD and not the software itself, hehe.

Audio CD Ripping software advice

Reply #14 –
Alright, thanks for the enlightenment Tech.

I am curious about something. I know this will sound very off-topic, but just take my stubbornness: it's been a while since the last time I threw dBpowerAMP onto my computer, so I wonder if it now comes with the same great idea that CDex put up on its latest release, packing their ripper with the L.A.M.E coder set to -V2 --vbr-new as default? You know that helps a lot since there are many that don't even bother and start ripping as soon as they spot the "Start" button close to their clicks (the ones we call "beginners").

Audio CD Ripping software advice

Reply #15 –
Quote from: Sebastian Mares on
People seem to always make the same mistake - EAC has no correction technique at all, it's the drive that corrects. EAC simply tells the unit to reread many times until it has 8 or 16 or whatever (don't remember) identical results.

...as well as the mistake in saying that single-file images are the only way to preserve gap behavior.

Also, in many cases it is not possible to "pin down" index points since there is no requirement that index information be included with every frame of audio data.

Quote from: alex_wheels on
So that also would mean no rippers have any error correction technique.
It is certainly true that no ripping programs perform any error correction.