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PCMCIA sound card GNU/Linux

If you see this thread I am looking for a PCMCIA sound card.  Someone recommended one for GNU/Linux but this is what the ALSA site says:

Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS Value CA0108 Details (emu10k1) [ANio] [MIDIio] (1) (3)
No 96khz 24Bit support.

What exactly does that mean?

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Reply #1 –
I'd guess it means that the card works on Linux but not with 96kHz and/or 24 bit audio. Presumably you can still use it at 44.1 kHz (or 48 kHz if it's Creative...) you can probably find cards better suited to Linux, I'll have a look around and edit my post.

quick edit: ideally you'll want a company that actually releases open source drivers, although I'm not sure that any such audio interface manufacturers exist...

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Reply #2 –
pcmcia or cardbus?

-brendan

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Reply #3 –
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Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS Value CA0108 Details (emu10k1) [ANio] [MIDIio] (1) (3)
No 96khz 24Bit support.

What exactly does that mean?


Creative cards are a pain in the ass for driver support under ALSA. Stay the hell away from them. Look into M-Audio or Chaintech (well supported under ALSA). EMU10K1 is the chipset used in most Creative cards.  Do you need a card that has MIDI I/O also? I am assuming you mean PCI? PCMCIA is entirely different. 24/96 means the card supports 24-bit output at sampling rate of up to 96 kHz. It's needed sometimes for recording and other applications.
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@ bhoar
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You can install up to two PC Cards that adhere to PCMCIA standards and release 4.2 of the JEIDA standard.

The computer supports type I, type II, and type III PC Cards, including such memory devices as SRAM cards that emulate diskettes, RAM cards, OTP ROM cards, and ATA cards that emulate IDE hard-disk drives. The computer also can support I/O cards such as modem communication cards, LAN cards, wireless LAN cards, SCSI cards, and sound cards.

You can install one type III or two type I or type II cards in the computer. You can also use extended PC Cards in the computer.


@HotshotGG Can you recommend some models that those other brands offer?  Also I don't need MIDI.

If its only <96khz does that mean I can't listen to 128kbps ogg vorbis files?

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@HotshotGG Can you recommend some models that those other brands offer? Also I don't need MIDI.


Check out M-Audio Revolution 5.1 card. If you do a search for them in the ALSA database, drivers have been written for the chipset. M-Audio cards use the VIA Envy24 bit chipset.

http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-p...&module=ice1724

Chaintech AV-710 is not on this list, unfortunatly I thought it was.

http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-p...&module=ice1724

There is also the Audiotrak Prodigy 7.1 ;-D. That's another solid card. I don't know if you desire a multichannel card, however. Both cards are multichannel.

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If its only <96khz does that mean I can't listen to 128kbps ogg vorbis files?


No it's just a sampling rate. I mentioned before why you need a card that supports higher sampling rates.
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Reply #6 –
um, did I not mention I need a pcmcia card, because HotshotGG is still recommending pci

Also I do not want anything fancy.  I just want the cheapest card that works with Linux kernel because my new (old) 366mhz p2 laptop (inspiron 3500) doesn't have sound support with Linux kernel and I just want to listen to some vorbis files.

Well according to this site that sound blaster only works with 1.2ghz p3's and faster (didn't think they made p3s that fast).  Anyway from hearing that I definitly don't think it will be working with my 366mhz p2   

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Quote from: zenlunatic on
um, did I not mention I need a pcmcia card, because HotshotGG is still recommending pci

Also I do not want anything fancy.  I just want the cheapest card that works with Linux kernel because my new (old) 366mhz p2 laptop (inspiron 3500) doesn't have sound support with Linux kernel and I just want to listen to some vorbis files.

Well according to this site that sound blaster only works with 1.2ghz p3's and faster (didn't think they made p3s that fast).  Anyway from hearing that I definitly don't think it will be working with my 366mhz p2   



Now I am really confused.  edit: scratch that . Why not just get something integrated then? you aren't going to find any cheap PCMCIA cards. People should doll out the extra thirty bucks for audio cards, sheesh they will spend $500 dollars liquid cool Nvida chips for graphics processing, but why they won't spend a lousy extra $30 bucks on a audio card that will last them.  $90 bucks is cheap also?.
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Reply #8 –
GG your helpfulness is slowly decreasing.  I don't want to spend $350 on a sound card for a 1998 laptop that I will just be listening to some ogg vorbis files on.  I could get a new laptop with that money.  I also can not justify $90 because I am not a audiophile or whatever its called.  I don't care about having the  "best" hardware no matter if its sound or video.  All I want is to play some trance streams and maybe a couple wikipedia sound clips.  So do you have anything to say that will help me find what I'm looking for or what?

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GG your helpfulness is slowly decreasing. I don't want to spend $350 on a sound card for a 1998 laptop that I will just be listening to some ogg vorbis files on. I could get a new laptop with that money. I also can not justify $90 because I am not a audiophile or whatever its called. I don't care about having the "best" hardware no matter if its sound or video. All I want is to play some trance streams and maybe a couple wikipedia sound clips. So do you have anything to say that will help me find what I'm looking for or what?


I understand what you are saying. Do a search for PCMCIA cards supported under ALSA. Search through the database and take a look.  You are better off using an intgrated audio with your laptop.  I am sorry I don't know what else to tell you. I am just offering shot in the dark suggestions. Most people are usually willing to spend a couple of extra bucks.  There is no Chaintech AV-710 cheap solution, like you have with PCI soundcards. 
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Reply #10 –
does that echo indigo card work in Linux?

also what is so bad about creative drivers with ALSA?

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does that echo indigo card work in Linux?

also what is so bad about creative drivers with ALSA?


My Audigy 2 Value always worked perfectly with Linux 2.6. In fact, Creatives cards are among the few with real hardware-mixing in Linux(meaning you won't need to mess around with dmix or esound to be able to play several sounds at once). I don't know if there are problems with the PCMIA-versions, but the PCI-cards are highly recommended on most Linux forums.

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PCMCIA is different to PC card, isn't it? I thought a PC card was for a desktop and a PCMCIA for a laptop?

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PCMCIA is different to PC card, isn't it? I thought a PC card was for a desktop and a PCMCIA for a laptop?


That was my impression too. 

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My Audigy 2 Value always worked perfectly with Linux 2.6. In fact, Creatives cards are among the few with real hardware-mixing in Linux(meaning you won't need to mess around with dmix or esound to be able to play several sounds at once). I don't know if there are problems with the PCMIA-versions, but the PCI-cards are highly recommended on most Linux forums.


It depends upon what card it is. If you look in the ALSA database the developers are unfamiliar with the new hardware and can't easily write drivers for the Audigy 4 and the X-FI. Any old fool can recommend a Creative card to you (most of us aren't Gamers though). I am partially biased and don't like the company too much for numerous reasons, but if works for you why not  (you might as well just get an EM-U PCMCIA card). The hardware mixing can be a plus though sometimes.
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Reply #15 –
pcmcia is equivalent to the ISA / IDE interface at 16-bit
cardbus is equivalent to the PCI interface at 32-bit

They're both "PC Cards", but older notebooks can only take the 16-bit versions (I believe there's a notch/block preventing cardbus cards from fitting all the way in too, which is good, but I may be wrong).  New notebooks usually have a chipset that will emulate the old 16-bit interface when necessary.

-brendan

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I have a ThinkPad T60 1953-E7U and run Slackware 12.2.  Right now, I own a Create Audigy 2 NX, but it doesn't get along with ALSA at all.  I'm looking for a at least a 5.1 (preferable 7.1) sound card that would work flawlessly under Linux.  I need it to support midi since Nted (http://vsr.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/staff/jan/nted/nted.xhtml)  uses a midi device to play the score and that's what I use to write my piano scores.

I've heard it's better to have a PCMCIA card as supposed to an external  USB or FireWire card.  Any suggestions?