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Doubt about a new DVDRW

Hi to you all,

i'm thinking on buying a new DVDRW, maybe the one from Plextor 8x, i think the quality of Plextor it's worthy the $.

But i have some questions for you to give me a hand.

Wich is the best Mark to buy in your opinion (Plextor/Pioneer/LG/NEC...??)

Wich is the best Disk's to burn (i heard the ones from Ritek are the best...)


and for the last, i hope is not a stupid question... but is DVD a good format for me to backup my movies, games and music....their period of life is shorter than the CD'S??

And the dummie question (i hope not  ). Will i loose any audio quality if i burn my MP3/MPC.... into DVD and then copy them if necessary in to my hard disk.


Thanks for all the help.
Sniff

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Reply #1 –
Well,you see that hardware is so fast progressing so i dont think its worth to spend a lot on drives couse in a year or two youll need a new couse couse for example you wanna dual layer,after that blu ray..and who knows what else will come 
If i were you i would go with a liteon or lg-both are good tested companys.
I heard that ritek`s are good and im not avare of that dvds last shorter then cds???
Also,if you make a data dvd from audio files(ne decompressing)and copy those files from dvd back to hd-you wont loose any qualitu couse you didnt decompress or compress,you just did a straight data copy.

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And the dummie question (i hope not  ). Will i loose any audio quality if i burn my MP3/MPC.... into DVD and then copy them if necessary in to my hard disk.

No.

Sorry I can't help too much with your other questions as I'm not too interested in DVD burning as yet.  I'm sure someone else can help you though.
gentoo ~amd64 + layman | ncmpcpp/mpd | wavpack + vorbis + lame

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Reply #3 –
i really like my Pioneer A05 for the most part. last i checked, the Pioneer drives scored very very well on dvdrhelp.com, next came the Sony dual format. i'm not sure how well the Plextor scored.

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Reply #4 –
Depending on how important burning speed and storage capacity are to you, you may want to put off the purchase of a DVD-RW drive for a month or two. Reasons: 1.) 12x (+R) drives will be coming out in May, and 16x drives soon to follow later this summer. After that point,  it is doubful that they will get any faster (16x@10k RPM is already very close to the speed limit for optical media, or so they say). 2.) DL (Dual Layer) drives are also set to come out very soon, if not also in a month's time, which will allow you to store ~8.5GB on a special, one-sided disc @ 2.4x, compared to the current 4.38GB.

However, I will say that I am happy with my 4x Pioneer dual drive, which has served me very well, and the Pioneer A03 that it replaced. I don't plan on replacing it anytime soon, as the extra cost is not warranted in my case: I burn very few DVD's, don't care about saving 6 minutes of burning time, and don't need 8.5GB on one disc. So, which drive to buy is also a question of whether the current market offerings meet your needs. If so, go for a Pioneer or Sony dual drive (+/-); if not, go "all out" and wait for a dual 16x DL drive 

Edit: By the way, you asked about discs: I've had good luck with Verbatim and Sony 4x +R media, so-so luck with 4x Maxell media, and bad luck with FujiFilm 4x +RW discs. When I had my old Pioneer, I had great luck with Apple brand DVD's, and so-so luck with Ritek discs...some discs burned fine, others were terrible. This may have changed for the better with the latest dye formulation. Princo 1x discs were simply awful...remember, you get what you pay for when it comes to media!

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Edit: By the way, you asked about discs: I've had good luck with Verbatim and Sony 4x +R media, so-so luck with 4x Maxell media, and bad luck with FujiFilm 4x +RW discs. When I had my old Pioneer, I had great luck with Apple brand DVD's, and so-so luck with Ritek discs...some discs burned fine, others were terrible. This may have changed for the better with the latest dye formulation. Princo 1x discs were simply awful...remember, you get what you pay for when it comes to media!

what do you mean so-so luck with Riteks? with 4X discs i've have just about 100% success burning discs that looked good in Nero CD Speed (perfect diagonal line). 2X were good most of the time. half got jaggy after about the 3.5GB mark and a couple failed CRC, but those were just fine for DVD-Video backups i didn't intend to copy or play back on my PC...

and yeah, just about everyone i know agrees that Princo is crap. someone even when i mentioned the brand that Khypermedia were Princo rejects. the only other brand i'd suggest avoiding are Memorexes. not a damn one of the initial 5pack i bought are readable anymore, and most failed a read on a PC right after the burn. *supposedly* they've gotten better as a friend said they're OK now, but i'll never touch their DVD media ever again.

if you want discs that are REAL cheap/crappy (for say loaners of your movies to friends) there's a new brand of 4X on meritline.com that's as low as $0.50 in a 100 spindle. i ordered a 25pack for grins... i'll report back later if this comes up...

but i really stand by my Ritek 4X -Rs. love them to death.

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I too am very happy with my Pioneer A06 (106 same thing). I've flashed the firmware to the 1.07 Region Free firmware and the drive has worked flawlessly.

As for discs, I've always struggled with that. I usually just buy Maxell as they have done me well for the most part. I'm not nearly familiar enough with actual disc manufacturers etc. so I'm not really one to talk.

The whole "should I buy this that or the other" when it comes to waiting for new technology is a gamble. If you NEED it now then buy it now, if you want it now, then buy it now. Waiting for new technology is pretty risky... you could wait for the 8.5GB DVD burners, but then they'll anounce blue-laser burners that can fit 40GB on a disc (or something) at the same cost. You all know the drill.

That being said if 4.38GB drives fit your foreseeable needs, you can always wait until the 8.5GB drives come out, and reap the rewards of the price drops.

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Oh and I too stay away from Memorex... nothing but trouble.

And my Maxell's are all +R/+RW. I'm a plus man. But hey... it's all good.

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Oh and I too stay away from Memorex... nothing but trouble.

Depending upon where you live and who manufacturers the Memorex discs that could very well be true. The last 100 or so CD-R's I've bought by Memorex were actually made by Taiyo Yuden and haven't given me any whim of trouble. I'm no sure who manufacturers their DVD+/- media.

One thing bad thing about DVD rewrittable discs is that there is very little software available that can full erase one, which exception to WinRescue. With so many DVD/CD authoring programs that cannot full erase it can cause all sorts of problems when a disc starts to act up and needs to be fully erased, such was the case with a Verbatim I used that started having problems after the second usage, however a full format in WinRescue fixed that problem in about 30 minutes.

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Reply #9 –
My only DVD-Writer till now is a 4X MSI (Sanyo inside, I think). Though I do feel it is not exactly high-quality, I can't complain, it hasn't failed me a burn yet.

About the discs, I've tried some other but for now I'm sticking with Princo 4X DVD-R. Yeah it's cheap, but apparently while there are a few problems with some Princo series (everyone else must have got some of those ), some of them are also great. No problems yet, and I'm not the only since the store where I buy the media (one of the best in Lisbon) keeps online forums where people complain a lot about what they buy, and though the Princo DVDs are on their most sold list, there are no customer complaints. I also used Medianca DVD+R and once again no complaints, although I haven't made any tests.

As Cygnus said, you get what you pay for, but I feel (TOS #8 violation ) that at the moment, DVD media isn't as bad as their CD counterparts... I might be proved wrong, but I've backed up my music collection to 6 DVDs, so I really hope I'm not

Finally I hope my post is understandable but it's 9 am and I should have already left.

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Reply #10 –
Keep your hands off LiteOn and LG DVD writers ... these have proven to be very picky about media, resulting in questionable write quality and thus readability of the discs.

My personal recommendation would be the NEC ND-2500A at the moment ... this drive is very good when it comes to media compatibility and writing quality, but it's DAE performance is poor ...

The best allrounder in my opinion is the PX708A ... good at DVD, good at CD, good at DAE ... bur some users report problems over at the cdfreaks forums ... maybe you should visit them to take a look at their reviews and forum statements ... but take the LiteOn forum with a grain of salt ... you'll find a lot of zealotry there.
The name was Plex The Ripper, not Jack The Ripper

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Reply #11 –
Many thanks for all your time and reply's.

I gather all the info i was in doubt  , hydrogenaudio is great, their members are awesome, never thought i get such as many useffull reply's.


Like one member said, waiting for the new technology, maybe is not such a good idea, everyone knows that when you buy something, "one day later" something new appears...PC world is like this 

Regarding LG Mark i don't have a good opinion about it, i'm a Debian user and i heard that for instance Mandrake F******* up LG Drives, maybe just a precaution i will not take LG in consideration.


In this precise moment i'm in doubt on Plextor and NEC, i will gather some more info on them just like in the reply above.


Again, many thanks for all the quick reply's.
Sniff.

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One thing bad thing about DVD rewrittable discs is that there is very little software available that can full erase one, which exception to WinRescue. With so many DVD/CD authoring programs that cannot full erase it can cause all sorts of problems when a disc starts to act up and needs to be fully erased, such was the case with a Verbatim I used that started having problems after the second usage, however a full format in WinRescue fixed that problem in about 30 minutes.

I find one of the best peices of software is almost never mentioned:

Gear Pro from Gear Software
http://www.gearsoftware.com/products/pro_overview.cfm

It's quite a bit less user friendly than Nero, but it most certainly handles any need when it comes to disc manipulation.

Additionally +RW discs technically never need to be full erased as they were designed to format on the fly. Although, as usual, I could be very very wrong about a lot of things. For example: I believe I'm offtopic now.