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mp3DirectCut

Dear all,

I use the above software to eliminate the nasty pauses among the downloaded mp3 live albums.
I must say that so far I am not satisfied at all of this program because so far I didn't succeed in getting a proper cut.
Usually, in live recordings the cut is made between two songs when the audience applauds, which is where normally I find the interruption made by the uploader of the mp3 file.
What I do, I put in evidence the interruption, set the begin/end and cut.
I save the project as .mpd and save the split in order to generate the mp3s.

Now, I don't know whether it depends on me doing something wrong in the procedure, or if is the software or whatever, but I am writing to ask if you face the same issue and if you can suggest alternative software to test.

Thanks very much
AOPEN AX34, PIII 1.0 GHz, 1GB RAM, Maxtor 40GB, WD 120 GB, Plextor 16/10/40A & PX-716A, HIS 9600 256Mb, 2xMonitor Philips 109P20, Canon i865, W2K, WXP

mp3DirectCut

Reply #1 –
mp3 isn't gapless. Then the pauses between tracks in live recordings are there. To avoid these the album have to be ripped in a single file and a cuesheet.
IMO mp3trim pro is better cutting the blank spaces in mp3 files. Then you can try to listen the mp3 with foobar2k (www.foobar.org) with kill silence plugin enabled.
MPC: --quality 10 --xlevel (v. 1.15s) (archive/transcoding)
MP3:  LAME 3.96.1 --preset standard (daily listening/portable)

mp3DirectCut

Reply #2 –
It's the MP3 format.
You can't avoid that behaviour.

What I do is use Feurio!'s Track Editor (my burners are supported)
The "Set start/end position" option lets you define the limits of the track in a fast non-destructive way.
You have to set the pauses to "Do not insert pauses between tracks" first.
It has a small visualization bug, so it's better to decode to WAV 1st.

In any case, if you don't use Feurio, you'll to decode to WAV. Then delete the silences with a wave editor, and burn with a program that supports files not multiple of a CD-DA sector: Nero, Easy, etc are useless for this. You'll have to use Feurio, Wavelab, Sequoia or Samplitude.

mp3DirectCut

Reply #3 –
Hi,

What I have is what I find on the net to download, therefore I cannot choose the format. (in this case, one big file in mp3 including one complete live album, but when I open it in mp3directcut, I can see the cuts among the songs, therefore I try to  join them in order to eliminate the pause).

Are you trying to tell me that I cannot do the job leaving the files in mp3 format?

Those softwares were born to solve the hassle of converting file into WAV, and now I read that the best option is to go back to WAV.

Also, I burn the CDs to be listened on hi-fi equipment, I do not use my PC to listen to music, therefore I have to exclude the possibility of using programs like foobar2K.

There must be a software that works properly in mp3...

Thanks guys

Alex
AOPEN AX34, PIII 1.0 GHz, 1GB RAM, Maxtor 40GB, WD 120 GB, Plextor 16/10/40A & PX-716A, HIS 9600 256Mb, 2xMonitor Philips 109P20, Canon i865, W2K, WXP

mp3DirectCut

Reply #4 –
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Are you trying to tell me that I cannot do the job leaving the files in mp3 format?

Exactly.
If you physically divide or cut in several MP3 files, then there will be silence at the beginning and end of track.


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Those softwares were born to solve the hassle of converting file into WAV, and now I read that the best option is to go back to WAV.

The only option would be a burning program that can edit what you're going to burn without modifying the original MP3 files.
Maybe there's one that detects those silences automatically, but I don't know any.
I use Feurio! Track Editor. You have to remove the silences manually, exactly like MP3DirectCut, but without modifying the MP3 files.

In Feurio, the only reason to decode to WAV is because of a visualization bug in Track Editor that doesn't allows to view MP3 files with accuracy when moving. (If you use Feurio 1.52 or older, there's no need to decode to WAV).

mp3DirectCut

Reply #5 –
The easiest way I have found to "re-join" separated tracks that flow into each other is to use a Wav editor - although I only go that route if and when I wish to create an audio CD.

When I do re-join the tracks:
1. I create one large wav file, and listen very carefully to where the tracks were split and minimize or eliminate the noticable gap that encoding to mp3 caused.
2. Once satisfied with the editing, I then split the one large wav file into separated tracks as they would be on an audio CD.
3. Burn the audio CD without the standard 2 second gaps.

mp3DirectCut

Reply #6 –
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Those softwares were born to solve the hassle of converting file into WAV, and now I read that the best option is to go back to WAV.

The only option would be a burning program that can edit what you're going to burn without modifying the original MP3 files.
Maybe there's one that detects those silences automatically, but I don't know any.

I know there are some (Roxio Easy CD Creator in particular) that can mix tracks together so they sound as if they never end. Of course the silence may still have to be dealt with manually by using a wav editing program.