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Hi everybody,
I'm starting to configure EAC to handle various formats. I have a large collection of MP3 which the lazy man will leave untouched, but decided to hook on more advanced tech. w. all other upcoming rips. I learned about MPC and successfully set up EAC and Win Amp to handle MPC just yesterday. Very satisfied w. the quality BTW.

Things go fast and while I'M trying to keep up understanding what I'm doing, OGG comes into play today.
I teached EAC to choose "oggenc2.exe" and gave it this command line.

-a "%a" -t "%t" -l "%g" -d "%y" -N "%n" -G "%m" %s

(dunno where I got it from, too much smoke in the rear view mirror)

Aahm.., o.k. melts down to my questions:

1. Why does the C-line above look different to what I read here (f. instance: "q 3 = 112 kbps" or what I read from one of volcanos posts:

-q 5 -a "%a" -t "%t" -l "%g" -d "%y" -N "%n" -G "%m" %s -o %d

????

I used to paste and copy the Lame C-lines from the General Forum (If my mem. serves me right)

No such a place that I'm aware of here.

2. I'd like to do a quick comparison betw.

alt pre set std.
MPC lev. 5
Ogg? What level is?

4. I noticed a Null Soft "Vobis decoder V. 1.32. Can I leave it as is, or is there any actual plug in available?

5. What's the reason to let EAC ripp only and let OGG Drop do the rest? All I can think of is that it speeds up the process and that OggDrop might have a couple of pre sets in-house. I'd appreciate to get some education on this. Please keep it easy, as I'm no scientist or tweak freak....hm, well not sure 'bout the tweak freak.
There must be a reason why I'm trying to eat MPC, OGG, and Forbear within two days LOL.

Thanx in advance Ladies and gentlemen.

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Reply #2 –
Right, that's the one I got the command line from. But it only list one line which seems not to have the - q level indication by #.
I tried the Rare Ware site and the WA plug in section to search for
the latest WA decoder plug in (input) that teams up w. my encoder version oggenc2.exe, w/o success.
Thank you devO though.

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Reply #3 –
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I tried the Rare Ware site and the WA plug in section to search for
the latest WA decoder plug in (input) that teams up w. my encoder version oggenc2.exe, w/o success.
Thank you devO though.

dont know what is the latest compile for wa, but vorbis decoder is fixed for long time now, so practically any version should decode corectly. afaik oggenc2 is only fetature-richer version of the original version, quote from oggenc2 -h:
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ALSO with this version, you may input FLAC, MONKEYS AUDIO, WAVPACK, LAPC,
OPTIMFROG and SHORTEN files. You MUST ensure that the appropriate
encoder/decoder (i.e., flac.exe, etc) is in the same dir/folder as
oggenc2.exe, or is in the defined path. ...
PANIC: CPU 1: Cache Error (unrecoverable - dcache data) Eframe = 0x90000000208cf3b8
NOTICE - cpu 0 didn't dump TLB, may be hung

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Reply #4 –
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-a "%a" -t "%t" -l "%g" -d "%y" -N "%n" -G "%m" %s
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1. Why does the C-line above look different to what I read here (f. instance: "q 3 = 112 kbps" or what I read from one of volcanos posts:

-q 5 -a "%a" -t "%t" -l "%g" -d "%y" -N "%n" -G "%m" %s -o %d

The two lines are equivalent.

If you do not give any quality value (-q), oggenc defaults to -q 5.

-a "%a" -t "%t" -l "%g" -d "%y" -N "%n" -G "%m" is only needed for the tagging.

%s is the file that shall be encoded (it is replaced with the filename by EAC before calling)

-o %d  gives the name wanted for the encoded file. %d is also set by EAC before calling. If not given, oggenc will default to same name as source (but .ogg instead of .wav), and this is what EAC expects. ie this is not needed.

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Reply #5 –
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Right, that's the one I got the command line from. But it only list one line which seems not to have the - q level indication by #.

Basically q 5 is the standard setting for vorbis (similar to alt preset standard in lame).  Meanig if you simply leave out the q switch, it will automatically encode in quality 5.  That means if you want to encode with  q 5 you can simply leav it out (although there is o harm done by leaving it there.  In case you want a higher or lower quality then standard you have to add the q switch (1 - 10).

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I tried the Rare Ware site and the WA plug in section to search for
the latest WA decoder plug in (input) that teams up w. my encoder version oggenc2.exe, w/o success.
Thank you devO though.


Basically you don't have to worry about that one.  The decoder performs a very different task then the encoder (duh, kind of obvious I guesss), meaning that one decoder should be perfectly capable of handling the files made by different encoders and there is no such thing as a specific decoder dedicated to just one encoder (there are very few exceptions).  Note for example that  no specific Lame decoder exists.  You can simply decode Lame with a variety of different encoder (ie.: mpglib, MAD, Fhg, etc.)

Just leave the standard Winamp plugin for Vorbis and you should be perfectly safe.

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5. What's the reason to let EAC ripp only and let OGG Drop do the rest?


Personally I can't see any, but maybe someone else can enlighten me.

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....hm, well not sure 'bout the tweak freak.
There must be a reason why I'm trying to eat MPC, OGG, and Forbear within two days LOL.


  , getting hooked already?!

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Basically q 5 is the standard setting for vorbis (similar to alt preset standard in lame).  Meanig if you simply leave out the q switch, it will automatically encode in quality 5.  That means if you want to encode with  q 5 you can simply leav it out (although there is o harm done by leaving it there.  In case you want a higher or lower quality then standard you have to add the q switch (1 - 10).

Eh? The 'official' oggenc uses -q 3 by default if you don't specify. I must admit, I haven't tried the enhanced versions (oggenc2, etc). They may have changed the default.

And the -q switch will take any number (-1 - 10) (yes, negative 1. It's an extra low quality setting that was added after 0 was already standard). It's a floating point number, so you don't have to settle for an integer (eg: -q 4.37 if you want something slightly better than -q 4, but not using as many bits as -q 5).

Otherwise, good post.

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Reply #7 –
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Eh? The 'official' oggenc uses -q 3 by default if you don't specify.

You are absolutely right about that one.  Must have gotten that mixed up.(probably with Flac and MPC)

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And the -q switch will take any number (-1 - 10) (yes, negative 1. It's an extra low quality setting that was added after 0 was already standard). It's a floating point number, so you don't have to settle for an integer (eg: -q 4.37 if you want something slightly better than -q 4, but not using as many bits as -q 5).


True as well.  Sorry for mixing that up
 

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Reply #8 –
Hate to bring up an old thread, just wanred to say thank you to all for your superquick and competent input.