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Convert Mp3 320 (Good Quality)

Hi! I have a question about lame encoder. What "commands" do you utilise to convert wav songs to mp3 320kbps? Which is the best command to use so as to have my mp3 320 songs in good quality. I wanna use a command that doesn't cut off at 20,000 khz but cuts off at 22,000 (lowpass disabled). By and large, i wanna my mp3 320 songs to sound as the wav somehow. If someone helps me out, i would appreciate it! Thanks!

****I use lame 3.100.1 version****!

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Klymins, how many accounts do you have on this forum?
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You cant use mp3 at all if you want absolute safety. Meanwhile opus just smashes all the killersamples you can throw at it @ 192 kbps.

This stellar listening test should answer all your questions: https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php/topic,120007.0.html
No need to tinker with cutoffs.
Just because 320 is the maximum option does not mean that it is any good. Lossy codecs are always a tradeoff between quality and FILESIZE, so every kbps you give it extra is diminishing the point of lossy. I assume you are replacing your lossless files?
And so, with digital, computer was put into place, and all the IT that came with it.

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Quote from: Markuza97 on
Klymins, how many accounts do you have on this forum?

Why do you assume that the OP is another account of mine? Couldn't you already notice that my opinions are different than what the OP implies? @korth May you please verify that the OP is not another account of mine by looking at the IP addresses and behaviours?

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EXCUSE ME BUT WHO IS KLYMINS? PERSONALLY, I AM NOT KLIMINS. YOU DEFINITELY MADE A MISTAKE! I AM KLAPS!!!!

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Quote from: Kartoffelbrei on
You cant use mp3 at all if you want absolute safety. Meanwhile opus just smashes all the killersamples you can throw at it @ 192 kbps.

This stellar listening test should answer all your questions: https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php/topic,120007.0.html
No need to tinker with cutoffs.
Just because 320 is the maximum option does not mean that it is any good. Lossy codecs are always a tradeoff between quality and FILESIZE, so every kbps you give it extra is diminishing the point of lossy. I assume you are replacing your lossless files?
I wanna convert wav songs (uncompressed) to mp3 320kbps!!!!!!! My question again is how can my mp3 320 cut off at 22,050khz and not at 20,000khz with lame
. What command should i use? I don't know what you understood. I think you didn't understand what i meant though!

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Do you want to achieve best audio quality or not? Messing with cutoffs wont do that for you.
Use this for reference instead: https://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=LAME#Recommended_encoder_settings . Which includes the flag -v2. Which is what i use mostly. ANOTHER question you appearently forgot about asking...
Just because it looks good on a spectrum does not mean it sounds good.
And so, with digital, computer was put into place, and all the IT that came with it.

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Quote from: Klaps on
Hi! I have a question about lame encoder. What "commands" do you utilise to convert wav songs to mp3 320kbps? Which is the best command to use so as to have my mp3 320 songs in good quality. I wanna use a command that doesn't cut off at 20,000 khz but cuts off at 22,000 (lowpass disabled). By and large, i wanna my mp3 320 songs to sound as the wav somehow. If someone helps me out, i would appreciate it! Thanks!

****I use lame 3.100.1 version****!

You can try;  -b320 --lowpass -1

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Quote from: Klaps on
Hi! I have a question about lame encoder. What "commands" do you utilise to convert wav songs to mp3 320kbps? Which is the best command to use so as to have my mp3 320 songs in good quality. I wanna use a command that doesn't cut off at 20,000 khz but cuts off at 22,000 (lowpass disabled). By and large, i wanna my mp3 320 songs to sound as the wav somehow. If someone helps me out, i would appreciate it! Thanks!

****I use lame 3.100.1 version****!

All sampled audio has to have low pass applied, the limit depends on what the sample rate is.  You haven't said what the sample rate of your uncompressed audio is.
It's your privilege to disagree, but that doesn't make you right and me wrong.

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Ogg vorbis does the cutoff at 22khz natively.

99.99999% of all humans (alive and dead) can/could "not" hear beyond 20khz and hearing beyond 16/17khz requires very young ears and high quality speakers/headphones. Keeping frequencies above 20khz in "lossy" files is just a waste of space. You may think that keeping those bits would make the files sound better, but it doesn't . Modern compression formats "will" always sound better than mp3 because it is an older technology.

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What -q should i use?? I now use lame 3.99.5 and not 3.100. I have been confused. It has been widely reported that -q 0 gives better quality at all but i don't think so. I gave it a try with -q 2 and that's the winner but i don't know. The command i use: -lame -b 320 -q 2 --lowpass -1 -m j "input.wav" output.mp3. Generally, does --lowpass -1 play a key role or not???? My mind went blank. I don't know whether -q 0 or -q 2 is better and if --lowpass -1 does a good job.... And 3.99.5 is better than 3.100 or not??? I want to receive the best quality at 320kbps. Smooth bass, vocals, drums etc.... Is it possible?? Thanks!!

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Quote from: Klaps on
My question again is how can my mp3 320 cut off at 22,050khz and not at 20,000khz with lame
Per how @lovecraft said, humans normally can't hear above 20 kHz, and most adults only top out at ~16 kHz. Keep the frequencies above the cutoff and you waste more space for basically no difference in quality. LAME is designed to cut off (remove) the frequencies most humans can't hear. If you override this, it's not recommended because: you waste more space for basically no difference in quality.

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what is confusing you? Are you looking at the spectrogram?
I think they largely deactivated the -cutoff flag. (not sure ive seen an article from way back someone correct me if im wrong.)
I have seen 16khz cutoffs on 320kbps files. its completely normal. Often happens on sections where there is droning bass present. On the other hand i also have seen 192 kbps files have no cutoff at all when i encoded them. Happens on video game music a lot.
Regarding your q values, here is some help: https://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php/LAME
And so, with digital, computer was put into place, and all the IT that came with it.

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I want the mp3 320kbps to sound as clean as it can. 3.100 version is better? I noticed it has better psychoacoustic than 3.99.5. Should i use --lowpass -1 or not? If someone who has experience with the lame and know exactly what's happening i would be glad to learn.

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Quote from: Klaps on
I want the mp3 320kbps to sound as clean as it can. 3.100 version is better? I noticed it has better psychoacoustic than 3.99.5. Should i use --lowpass -1 or not? If someone who has experience with the lame and know exactly what's happening i would be glad to learn.

Quality wise, 3.99 and 3.100 are same. Personally I would not use lowpass -1.  I think -b320 or --preset insane is what you want. 

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Yeah! So --lowpass -1 is useless? Also, in version 3.100, the -q 3 is q -4 and -q 4 is -q 3? Generally, which -q is better? Furthermore, one friend sent me an mp3 320kbps and when i scanned it on mp3guessenc, it said it was encoded with lame 3.101.2. How that's possible since this version hasn't been officially released?

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Quote from: Klaps on
Yeah! So --lowpass -1 is useless? Also, in version 3.100, the -q 3 is q -4 and -q 4 is -q 3? Generally, which -q is better? Furthermore, one friend sent me an mp3 320kbps and when i scanned it on mp3guessenc, it said it was encoded with lame 3.101.2. How that's possible since this version hasn't been officially released?
-q0 is best. As for your friends mp3, you should probably discuss this very interesting and important question with the author of that mp3 encoder guessing software. Are you a pensioner by any chance?

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Quote from: Klaps on
it said it was encoded with lame 3.101.2. How that's possible since this version hasn't been officially released?

Perhaps your friend uses some software that makes use of that version of the encoder. For example:
LAME 3.101.2 in EZ CD Audio Converter

Quote from: EZ CD Audio Converter Encoder versions
MP3
LAME 3.101
korth

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Quote from: Klaps on
Yeah! So --lowpass -1 is useless? Also, in version 3.100, the -q 3 is q -4 and -q 4 is -q 3? Generally, which -q is better? Furthermore, one friend sent me an mp3 320kbps and when i scanned it on mp3guessenc, it said it was encoded with lame 3.101.2. How that's possible since this version hasn't been officially released?

The -q3 and 4 are different.  At low bitrates -q4 is prefered and only applies to cbr/abr . At 320 you can leave the default and not worry about it.

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-q 0 is actually not the best! I use 3.100 and the best -q is -q 3 (-q 4 in order to receive -q 3). Also, i wanna convert the songs with fhg Fraunhofer l3enc. Can someone give me a link to download it? Do i have to write a command or is it a program????

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There are many links. How do i have to download it?? Is it a program or cli? If it's like cli, what's the command????

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Quote from: Klaps on
There are many links. How do i have to download it?? Is it a program or cli? If it's like cli, what's the command????
Assuming you are on Windows, probably this one: l3enc272.zip. It comes with a frontend program and a user manual.