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Nero Soundtrax good enough for wav editing?

Hello there,
Looking for a simple way to create a CD compilation, mixing a few wav tracks @16-bit, 44100Hz, using or not the crossfade option, redefining the indexes, I've found the Nero Soundtrax. At this point I am interested to know if the delivered edited tracks are altered or resampled. Other details:

In Project settings we have Rendering sample 44100Hz, 16-bit / Stereo
In Preferences, dithering disabled. (no so sure about the noise sharping filter, is activated together with dithering or not, It can't be disable).

Taking in consideration the above mentioned, how can I analyze the quality of an exported track compared with the original file before making any compilation?
Is there anyone using this tool for this purpose?
Thanks,
 

 



Re: Nero Soundtrax good enough for wav editing?

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Hello there,
Looking for a simple way to create a CD compilation, mixing a few wav tracks @16-bit, 44100Hz, using or not the crossfade option, redefining the indexes, I've found the Nero Soundtrax. At this point I am interested to know if the delivered edited tracks are altered or resampled. Other details:

In Project settings we have Rendering sample 44100Hz, 16-bit / Stereo
In Preferences, dithering disabled. (no so sure about the noise sharping filter, is activated together with dithering or not, It can't be disable).

Taking in consideration the above mentioned, how can I analyze the quality of an exported track compared with the original file before making any compilation?
Is there anyone using this tool for this purpose?

(1) Obtain a copy of the Rightmark audio analyzer (freeware). Google is your friend. Its authors are Russian and they are good guys.

Set it for the file format that you want to test, such as 44 KHz sampling and 16 bit data.

Use it to create a sample audio file. It has a function for saving a test file as a .wav file. It actually creates two files, one for setting levels and one for testing. We want the one for testing and can set aside the one for setting levels.

(2) Edit the test file and make some trivial change to a tiny part of it at the end. For example, add 1 second of silence.  Save it.

(3) There is an Rightmark program option to analyze test files. Use it to test both the test file you created with the Rightmark program and the file you created based on it using the editor under test.

Observe any significant differences in noise, distortion, and frequency response.  There really shouldn't be any at all.


Re: Nero Soundtrax good enough for wav editing?

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Wow, this is truly magic, thanks a lot! I've done the above mentioned steps, adding silence at the end of the track without any other sound modification and as we can see here, the result is the same in every case. (which means that the editor is good enough?) Btw, I've used MME [Wave mapper] , Tests and options [default], is that ok?

I appreciate it!

Re: Nero Soundtrax good enough for wav editing?

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I don't know anything about that application.   (I use GoldWave and Audacity).    But, most digital audio editors are audibly prefect (depending on what editing & effects you apply) and they usually don't "touch" the audio where there are no edits/effects.   For example if you are only fading-in and fading-out and doing crossfades, the digital audio data would only be changed during the fades.

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dithering disabled. (no so sure about the noise sharping filter, is activated together with dithering or not, It can't be disable).
Dither is low-level noise, so no noise-shaping will be applied if no dither is applied.    

Dither should only be applied when downsampling.    The benefits of dither are mostly theoretical (probably completely theoretical) at 16-bits or more...   You aren't going to hear the dither or the effects of dither.   If you were downsampling to 8-bits, dither probably worth doing.

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Btw, I've used MME [Wave mapper] , Tests and options [default], is that ok?
That has nothing to do with editing.   It's the protocol used for you soundcard driver (recording/playback.)     It's probably not going to make any difference, but MME is the oldest standard.   WASAPI is the newest, and Direct Sound is in-between.   

Re: Nero Soundtrax good enough for wav editing?

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Thanks, when you say "I don't know anything about that application" are you reffering at nero saoudtrax or Rightmark audio analyzer?

Re: Nero Soundtrax good enough for wav editing?

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Thanks, when you say "I don't know anything about that application" are you reffering at nero saoudtrax or Rightmark audio analyzer?
I was referring to SoundTrax, but I've never used RightMark either.